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Paint exterior pop-outs a different color or not?

5 years ago

Repainting in Phoenix. East-West exposure. Thinking Dunn Edwards Daydreaming DET 678 (https://www.dunnedwards.com/colors/browser/det678 ) for exterior walls. Either Renrick Brown DET 630 (https://www.dunnedwards.com/colors/browser/det630) or Espresso Macchiato DET 680 (https://www.dunnedwards.com/colors/browser/det680) for garage door, front door and fascia.


Question - do I paint the pop outs the same as the walls or the garage door/entry/fascia?


Hope to get samples tomorrow to put on the house for comparison. Will post when I get them up.


Neighborhood is traditionally in the creams/tans colors. A white/black combo down the street; and a grey next door.


Would like to do something more updated. Thoughts?


My house


My front door


I'm liking the colors here, but don't know what they are....


Comments (35)

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Your paint color selection for the home is way too yellow IMO.



    Select WHITE for the building and paint the trim the color of limestone like you see below. It will look the most natural.



    paint your garage doors to resemble wood.


    After that's done your lot needs a ton of landscaping.




    dreamindecor thanked BeverlyFLADeziner
  • 5 years ago
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    a good trimming of that palm tree is in order. can't even see the front door

    any chance of chaging the doors? if not, give them a good sanding, prime and paint a darker color like this Iron Ore.


    You have the height, do a spanish style pendant light. or, get a new side light
    here's a new wood door w/glass, a side-light, and some potted cacti




    Here's similar homes, before/after. I like the white stucco/dark trim, new garage door

    big difference in the color. of course landscaping is huge. try bringing in more cacti or succulents w/yours. maybe a mesquite or palo verde tree.










    I don't have the pop outs, but I have Mediterranean style.

    paint them the same color as the rest of the stucco.

    I did DE Swiss coffee on the stucco, BM Wrought Iron trim. I have wood accents on the gate/garage door

    i used the lighter gray color against the roof fascia.




    for your garage door, can you upgrade it or do a newer one? a new door will really make the redo on this home .



    you can get the wood look. it sure would make a difference. I'd also get the Carriage Hardware (amazon) in the black iron to go with it, shown on this lighter door


    don't forget the lights


    dreamindecor thanked Beth H. :
  • 5 years ago

    I agree that the current color has strong yellow undertones. And would love to see something more white. Or cream.
    Get some samples.
    I like black trim.
    And yes all the “pop outs” LOLOL should be the same white color you end up going with.

    Where’s the door?
    And what’s behind the palm trees?
    I’d also consider new lighting and yes, landscaping.
    Your house has a lot of potential

    dreamindecor thanked HU-187528210
  • 5 years ago

    Thank you Beverly for your thoughts. My thought was to get a creamy white (not too yellow) for the exterior wall color with a deep brown (almost black) for the front door and garage door. Definitely need to find just the right white without too much yellow! Any recommendations? I noticed in the 2ndpic you posted that the house is a creamy white with a dark brown garage door and front door. I’ll see if I can pick up a variety of whites at the paint store as samples. Dunn Edwards is the favorite in Phoenix, but I certainly have access to all the others as well.


    Beth – Thanks for all the before/after pics! They helped a lot! You’re right about trimming the front palm tree! It’s on the schedule! Unfortunately, a new door isn’t in the budget at this time, so I have to make due with painting it a cool updated color. I loved the Iron Ore suggestion – Looks like Benjamin Moore and Sherwin Williams both have a similar color. Was trying to stay in the deep brown-almost black color though. I do prefer a double door – makes it so much easier to load furniture in and out.


    Yes – after painting, we’ll consider new lighting. I’ve asked my DH to clean all the outside lights so we can remember their true color! It’s likely faded over time. Plus, people keep banging their heads on that side light by the front door!


    Alas, a cool new garage door isn’t in our budget, so we’ll have to make due with a cool new color.


    We moved away all our potted plants in preparation for painting, but will be looking for recommendations once the painting is done. Have to remember that we’re in a hot, dry climate here in Phoenix! Limited lush landscaping here!

  • 5 years ago

    I really like Daydreaming. I like Renwick Brown with has a bit of gray where as Espresso has red. Another color to consider for the accents is Sorrel Felt which is pared with Renwick, although I can see keeping them white and not accentuate them.

    I like the garage door, facia, and rafters in Renwick.

    Can you have the palm tree professionally move to the left side of the house? Palms have a shallow root system, so I imagine they can be moved. They look great, but block the front door.

    Here is a mock-up with Renwick and Sorrel Felt.

    All white with Renwick.


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  • 5 years ago

    Thanks for the mock-ups Houssaon! Really helps! Personally I like it with the pop-outs in white. Thanks for helping me visualize it! My DH is now leaning towards black on the doors, but I don't know.....


    Can't move the palm, but I'm going to get it trimmed up pronto!

  • 5 years ago

    There's a lot of great xeriscape landscaping in and around Phoenix. Here's a few from Houzz. Best yet is you don't have grass to water.


    Camelback Royal View · More Info


    Lyon Estate in Estancia · More Info


  • PRO
    5 years ago
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    I vote for daydreaming paint for entire exterior



    dreamindecor thanked Celery. Visualization, Rendering images
  • 5 years ago
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    what about painting the roof fascia trim in a dark color? that all white is too white.

    the dark fascia (I didn't do it) paired w/the darker garage door lends some contrast.


    i'd also do larger numbers and lanterns




    dreamindecor thanked Beth H. :
  • 5 years ago

    Celery and Beth H. – wow! Thanks for the rendering! Any chance you could do a mock-up of either the Daydreaming or Trade Winds on the exterior and Espresso Macchiato on the garage door, front door, fascia and window trim? That’s where we’re leaning.


    Here are some pics after paint samples:


    Daydreaming on the right post; Trade Winds on the left. Can hardly tell the difference.

    Renwick Brown - garage door - far right 2 squares and far left top square - shows a definite green tint in person.

    Espresso Macchiato - bottom square on the left and inside top square on the right.

    I trimmed up 3 of the palm trunks that I could reach. :-)


    Morning sun


    Afternoon shadow


    Another angle


    Neighbors house is DE Navajo White


    If anyone knows anything about Hues, Values etc. Here is what DE says about each color. On paper, Trade Winds is much more on the grey side and Daydreaming is more on the vanilla/tan side.


    Trade Winds – DET647 – LRV = 76

    Munsell: HUE=6.3Y / VALUE=8.9 / CHROMA=0.7

    Hex color code: #E6E3D6


    Daydreaming – DET678 – LRV = 87

    Munsell: HUE=4.6Y / VALUE=9.4 / CHROMA=0.9

    Hex color code: #F4F0E1


    Espresso Macchiato – DET680 – LRV = 7

    Munsell: HUE=6.3YR / VALUE=3.0 / CHROMA=0.6

    Hex color code: #4F4744

    (Espresso Macchiato is paired with Daydreaming on the DE site)



  • 5 years ago
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    did you see my pic w/my stucco? It's DE Swiss Coffee. Looks similar to your daydreaming. I think that one is fine.

    As for the darker colors, the ones that are green looking are out.

    The other darker browns, meh. I don't care for this one at all


    I'd go for more of a blacker brown.

    I don't care for the Espresso brown shades. I'd do more of charcoal

    if you like the brown, what about Black Bean?


    I like this color better


    Black Tie? Pick one that doesn't have the green undertones.

    here's what it looks like




  • 5 years ago

    We are also in the Arizona desert. It seems that there have been a lot of attempts at “modernization “ of Spanish or territorial style homes by painting them white with dark trim. The most obvious fails are those with starkly contrasting black and bright white. A warmer, creamy white, as in some of the renderings, is more soothing in the desert sun.

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  • 5 years ago

    Beth – Yes I saw your stucco with Swiss Coffee. Love that color and have used it on my interior ceilings, doors and trim.


    I never KNEW that the garage iron hardware was magnetic and so easy to put on! I am sending my DH tomorrow to pick one up at Lowe’s and we’ll see how it looks. I noticed that 95% of them were on White garage doors. We’d planned to have a dark garage door and My concern is that they wouldn’t show up against the black. I’d really love to use them, so now rethinking our color scheme. ☹ We could do a dark trim around the garage door though and use the same dark color on the front door, fascia and window trim.


    Regarding Black Bean and Black Tie – I DID consider them – MY DH really likes the black contrast against the 2 lighter colors we’re considering for the body of the house. He will pick those up in the morning as well and we’ll add them to the sample mix.


    LOVED your pic with the light Aqua door. Not sure I’m brave enough for that!


    Here's a shot with some of the palms trimmed up in front. Wondering how a Trade Winds body/ garage door, Black Tie or Black Bean trim around the garage/fascia/window trim and a Light Aqua door would look! With decorative hardware on the garage!



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    it shows ups against the brown if you want to paint it so that it looks like wood.

    here's mine again. the black trim around the door w/the white frames the garage.


    As for the light aqua door, its only paint! not a big deal to change it. try something different. It's way under the porch so it's not like it's going to be a blue beacon! try something soft and muted.

    Is Tradewinds one of those sample whites you have? I paired it here w/the wood color garage, Black Tie, and two blue colors




    this one is also pretty. very Agave-like. plant an Agave in your yard


    I think I like the Swiss Coffee better. Seems less dingy looking


    Here. How's this combo? go for it. the copper and the patina agave color w/the succulents look amazing. either one of the porch lights are nice too. or you could do more of a spanish iron look. up to you.

    you could even paint your garage door that weathered blue color. or the Black tie. Try out both of them and see what looks best.


    what about Whisper or the Swiss Coffee? I think they're a bright white. even Cottage white is nice I've used that color. the Navajo White is very beige toned.


  • 5 years ago

    Beth - Would the garage door hardware look too “Carriagy” in a southwest environment?


    I’m assuming painting your garage door to look like wood takes a certain skill set – like a faux finisher. Not sure my painter can do it.


    We had thought to paint the garage door Black Tie (thanks to your suggestion) as well as the fascia, window trim and the front door. However, I am Really intrigued by the light aqua blue door surrounded by Black Tie trim (you sent a pic above). How do you think Dunn Edwards Lake Reflection – DET556 or Island Oasis DE5730 would look on my front door?


    Option 1

    • Body of house – Daydreaming or Trade Winds (DD seems to have more yellow than TW, which appears to have more grey – at least on the paint cards. However, we can’t tell the difference on the walls. ??)
    • Garage door, Front Door, Fascia, window trim – all Black Tie


    Option 2

    • Body of house – Daydreaming or Trade Winds
    • Garage door, Fascia, window trim – Black Tie
    • Front Door – Lake Reflection


    Option 3

    • Body of house – Daydreaming or Trade Winds
    • Garage door – same color as house with decorative hardware
    • Fascia, Garage trim/window trim – Black Tie
    • Front Door – Lake Reflection




    Yard guy will be here Friday to trim up the rest of the palms. We will also replace the house numbers with larger vertical numbers. Updated lighting.


    I have to get the paint color to the painter by the 10th.


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    You didn't like this Weathered Blue color?

    I think it's a great choice w/the coloring you're going with.


    I think Lake Reflection is too Carribean/Beach house for your spanish style. I like the one above a lot better


    this is way too bright and too "Florida Cottage!"

    I picked a few others and paired them w/your two whites, and 3 other whites. I think you should nix Trade Winds. It's too dull and gray.

    this is DE Mission White. you see this one?


    I think Swiss coffee is a better choice, but you pick what you like!


    any of these other blues/green colors would look great, especially if you bring in the agave plant near the front door.

    here's a list of their spanish colors

    https://www.dunnedwards.com/colors/curated-projects/spanish-mediterranean-slash-craftsman-slash-victorian

    as for the garage door hardware, they have a spanish style you can buy. Get that one.

    actually, I think something like thise would look great. at least the 4 corner things and the two rings. handles are nice too. but you see how these look Spanish and not 'carriage-y" ?


    I love how they did this one. see the dots? just use those if you like. see if you can insert some of the grid windows in the upper row. maybe new lighting. (and you can easily paint this yourself!)


    Lowes has something like this.



    you want this type of look. get the rings and 'round dot things'



    Wayfair has this magnetic one: Winsoon




    even if you just got 4 handles that look spanish, you could just attach those. like this:




    Oh, and I found a how to on painting the door. it's really not that difficult if you want to try it


    https://lovepaperpaint.wordpress.com/2011/06/13/faux-wood-doors-one-project-a-weekend/

    If you go w/one of those blue/green colors on the front door, what do you think about doing the garage door in that shade too?


    It could look nice w/the hardware agaisnt the white and black trim. maybe have the painter or you, paint a sample of both on each side?

    regardless of the color you choose, I'd still do the hardware and exterior lighting, as well as spanish style address numbers.

    for your porch, I actually like this pendant light. can you do this?


    comes w/some regular exterior sconces too. for the garage door area?




    https://www.lampsplus.com/sfp/71N27

    or some other styles



    https://www.lampsplus.com/sfp/23687



    this patina one looks good w/all of these colors!


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  • 5 years ago

    Beth – First of all, thank you sooooo much for all the thought and research you’ve done to provide me with some ideas - you’ve given me a lot to think about!


    I guess we’re not huge fans of the Weathered Blue color. After you tempted me with the photo of the Aqua door with the Black Tie trim, I ran out and got Aqua paint samples to try out on our front door! Luckily, we haven’t painted it on yet! (Note – I know Lake Reflection can look a bit “Caribbean/Beach House,” but I DID see it on the list of Spanish-Mediterranean colors….. sooo maybe????)




    Although we live in a desert, we don’t really care for desert landscaping, so I’m afraid the yucca idea is not our 1stchoice. That said, we’re all about potted plants and plan to do some near the front door, having recently taken out 3 boxwood shrubs nearby.


    DH and I did a drive around of the surrounding neighborhoods – here's what we saw:

    • 98% are Southwest colors – tans, creams. Garage doors primarily are the color of the house.
    • We saw a number of garage doors that were either painted to look like wood, or were the aluminum that looked like wood (yes, I actually got out to ask a homeowner about his garage door).
    • We saw quite a few of the decorative garage door hardware – so much that we’ve now nixed that idea. We will probably stick with a Black Tie or Black Bean garage door/fascia.
    • We saw virtually NO house where we loved the paint job.
    • The 2% that were more ‘contemporary’ colors were underwhelming.

    I loved the pic of DE Mission White (it looks a lot darker on the card) with the black fascia/garage door. But I’m wondering if Black Bean would be a better choice for this climate than Black Tie since it’s a brown/black rather than a black/black.




    Since you thought Trade Winds was on the "dull, grey" side, I was wondering what you thought of Daydreaming vs Swiss Coffee for exterior (both are on the Spanish-Mediterranean list). Being in the hot Southwest, it feels like a warm creamy vanilla (not too yellow) would look better on the body of the house exterior than a bright white.


    I AM a fan of Swiss Coffee, since we have that color throughout the interior of our home (ceilings, baseboards, interior doors). So I guess that’s also an option for the exterior.

    Which would pair better with that - BB or BT?


    Here’s where we are NOW - which isn't a lot further than a I was a few days ago 😊:

    • Exterior - Creamy white/vanilla – not too yellow or grey – soft, but bright, but not stark ‘white.’
    • Garage door / front door / fascia (BB or BT?)
    • New lighting
    • New house numbers

    Garage Door - Black Bean is the square left of center; Black Tie is the square right of center

    Whisper on the 2 upper corners of the garage - (just cuz I had it)

    Trade Winds on the left column; Daydreaming on the right column






    Need to finalize paint with the painter by next Weds.


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    you could have tried the Lake color on the door! I just think it's going to be a little bright, but maybe not. I did see it on the list.

    This is what I like. .


    Daydreaming does look a bit more creamier. it could work. I do see that black bean has more brown. I don't like brown, so that would a no from me. but honestly, next to black tie they're almost the same. the others are way too green

    So you didn't like any of these either?

    what about Winnipeg?


    I think swiss coffee is a nice middleground between daydreaming and whisper. but if you really like daydreaming, use that one. it's doable.

    i'm not familiar w/DE colors as much as the other brands. looking at SW, what about some of these? maybe Raindrop or Watery is less 'bright turquoise' ?




    I stuck in the agave plant because of the colors. I did a xeriscape yard on our rental and have a bunch of catus and succulents (im in so cal and only get slighter cooler temps than you. although, we do have many 105-110 days in the summer where I live)

    this was it years ago when I first did it. all of those have grown 5X the size in this pic. I actually need to get down there and prune the heck out of everything. that agave plant is now as big as the back end of a car!


    I think brink in some color through these succulents and cactus would look great w/the colors of the home you choose.







    instead of red/brown rocks or mulch, choose a gray or black color





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  • 5 years ago

    Front palm is now trimmed up. Added DE Whisper DE 340 (left side of horizontal pop out over the garage) and DE Swiss Coffee DEW341 (right side of horizontal garage pop out) to the mix for the house wall exterior – although I really can’t tell them apart in the photos. Any help for which would be better for the exterior???

    • reminder – Tradewinds on the left pillar has been eliminated; Daydreaming on the right pillar may be too yellow – the yellow really shows up in the morning sun










    Many painters like Dunn Edwards as the ‘go-to’ paint here in the desert Southwest.


    Wondering about Black DEA002 vs Black Tie DE6357 for the fascia and garage door (what sheen???). Both are paired with Whisper on the DE web site…. BT is painted on the right center square panel on the garage door.


    RE the FRONT DOOR – for fun, we painted a couple of poster boards Dunn Edwards Lake Reflection DET556 (which is on their Spanish-Mediterranean list) and Spearmint DE5729, although they appear virtually identical. A safer choice would be one of the Black colors, but suddenly DH likes the surprising pop of Aqua…. Many of you have said that you can’t see the front door – you can see it better from some angles. I guess we could start with the Aqua color and if we didn’t like it, could change it to Black later….. an easy fix, right?



    Lake Reflection is on the right.





    BLOCK WALL – do we paint the wall the same color of the house? It’s currently the same color as the house, but we thought that a white might be a little stark for us in the back yard. Currently the wall is kind of a subtle backdrop to the plants, but a white wall would provide a brighter background. The plants would really pop against it, but would it be too bright? Should we paint a color that is more subtle?


    Pay no attention to the lighter stripe - we tried out a lighter color but it had a pink tinge.





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    I'd leave the back wall. it blends in w/the landscaping. if you do a white you'll need sun blinders to walk outside!

    either of those 3 whites look fine.

    Black tie isn't as deep as Black. Up to you what you like. It's going to look dark no matter which one you use.

    the sheen for trim should be a satin or even a semi. glossier paints last longer in the elements. dark colors are going to rapidily fade in the sun (I did wroght iron on my trim and it's already faded. Use the best exterior paint finish you can afford. they should have UV properties in them to slow down the fade.)

    I do like the aqua on the door. (that light though,,,,,)

    I like it w/the dark trim.

    (notice the pendant light!! can you swing doing that? the side light is just in the way!)


    This is a lighter aqua than what you have. almost a sky blue^

    remember, next to the white it's really going to pop. which is fine.

    going to look similar to this



    why not wait until the stucco is painted and then try the sample on the door? (make sure you sand and prime that door before painting)

    and I hate to keep spending your money, but a darker iron hardware for the front door is a must. See what they did above?





    love the moroccan style pendant light, especially w/your bright door color


  • 5 years ago

    Yes I agree that the whites would be blinding on the back wall. So we’ll keep it the same. But what about the wall in the FRONT? Should it be the white – to match the front exterior or keep it the same (look odd???)?



    Oh yes – the porch and garage lights are the next decision! In fact, I’ve been looking. Probably going to stick with the side front porch light for now rather than a pendant – even though everyone runs into it!


    Also next up – new house numbers, clean and seal the pavers, potted plants.


    Hadn’t even thought about the front door hardware. Definitely adding that to the list.


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    ok, I see what you mean. were those painted the same color as the stucco? they look diff from the ones in the back.

    if they're painted already, then use a good masonry paint for those too.

    I think you could do the white or even the black tie. why not try out both after the stucco is painted and see what you like?

    I see your neighbor painted his the dark gray (his gray has too much blue in it! )

    your side light could work,,,just get one that is more flush to the wall

    Lowes, Kichler, Barrington


    measure the protrubence on your current one, and find one 4-8" thinner.

    might as well get a new doorbell cover too! they shouldn't be that much

  • 5 years ago

    House is done! We went with Swiss Coffee and Black Tie for the garage door, front door and fascia.

    Need some ideas for a new front rug and landscaping. And front door hardware.

  • 5 years ago

    We selected Dusk to Dawn lights and installed them ourselves!

    Liking the deep blue pots posted above, paired with other pots around the door. Looking to plant a Phoenix Robellini palm to the left of the arched window.

    Need a fun rug for the entrance.

  • 5 years ago

    Black lock set? Satin Nickel?

    Plus previous ideas for pots around the door.

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    wow! That looks so good. what a difference! love the numbers and the light too. if that's a mulch next to the grass, think about switching it to the black instead of the red. it will compiment the house colors better


    for the door, I think a matte black would be fine (you could try spraying yours if you'd like)




    or do you want gold?



    I like this layered look w/the jute and welcome mat,,,,and the colorful potted flowers give the front some much needed color




    tons of ideas. you could use planters, (like the blue ones w/the succulents)


    or even grouped lanterns. maybe some solar tiny lights.


    Layered door mat ideas



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    what if you brought in some terra cotta pots w/the jute/black mats/rug?

    maybe did a birdbath, southwestern style, in the middle ? suround it w/some native plants?


    so many cool ways to add some color right there. bubbling urn, terra cotta, lots of boulders/pebble rock, container plants,


    I'd prob do something like these rocks, the bubbling urn or a colorful birbath, some mexican pebble rock up aginst the cobble, a few plants in a some colored pots.


    or something simple like this with a little pathway, the bench, some solar lights


    or, a little bistro table chairs

    i'd layer something like this on top of the larger jute rug.


    how about a place to sit?


    love these two colors (the wood) w/the terra cotta, black and the aqua (and copper)

    (oh, but you don't like this color, right? w/the black and copper, I think it's a nice addition. use the cobalt if you prefer)


    a southwestern style bench up against that part of the wall
    (you could always do this bench in the color that you like. )

    a sun on the wall behind it, a copper southwestern style door handle, and pots to match?

    maybe a southwestern door mat. These are just thrown together. you could pick better colors and styles.

    gave you the wood bench here w/the cobalt pot. love these colors




  • 5 years ago

    Looks good. I would have liked to see the front door in one of the blues Beth suggested, though. Keep you mulch natural!

  • 5 years ago

    Wow! It looks SO much happier! I would still change to a dark black Spanish door set just in case the turquoise door comes back into discussion. It has the right “feel” for your house.
    The Swiss Coffee and Black Tie look amazing together. @Beth H gave you a lot of good advice and your final selections, IMO, were the best. Enjoy your new look!

  • 5 years ago

    Beth - thanks for all the suggestions for the front porch! Since I didn't do the Aqua front door - serious remorse there..... :-( -- I am now on the hunt for the perfect Aqua rug to layer under a welcome mat. Since it's 110 - 115 right about now in Phoenix, I'm doing this online!


    Plus I'm scoping out containers and plantings that will survive our hot summers, with a mix of seasonal annuals for the front. I have a pretty good handle on the annuals, but am a newbie when it comes to succulents - things that won't outgrow the pots for a few years.

  • 5 years ago

    No need to regret the door color. It’s a can of paint and a couple of hours on a day when you really, really want the turquoise. The house looks great as is. :)

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  • 4 years ago

    BeverlyFLADeziner I am wondering how to get a bronze look on the roof gutters. (1st Brick & Batten pic you posted).. any ideas?

  • 4 years ago

    Gigi, the gutters can be painted. or if you need gutters, get them made in that color.