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How to make white paint appear more consistent?

5 years ago

Hi! More newb talk! Pre-reno, my kitchen was painted BM Simply White to pair with our maple cabinets. It was a harmonious combination. Now that the white cabinets are in, Simply White looks white on one side of the room and yellow on the other! From what I understand, this is a common experience for this color and depends on the space. It is likely the same as before but I didn't notice it as much.


Bottom line: Does anyone know if there are tricks in choice of paint sheen or even specific undertones of other white paint that will help downplay the color shift and help keep a more consistent tone?


It's possible I may be in wonderland and just have to learn to love yellow-green. My countertop is a cool gray and the windows are west-facing to a green yard, so none of that helps things, I'm sure. (I'm not going pigmented and just sticking with white, because the adjacent room is green-gray and rather than worry about whether they match or are too similar, I just want to keep it light and bright.) The SW Pure White chips are looking a bit green. I'm going to check out a few other shades, but right now looking at SW Origami White and Valspar Du Jour, which seems Simply White-adjacent.


The end of my project is so close I can nearly touch it.

Comments (10)

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks, Diana! The living room is Behr Eon and the cabinets are stock-RTA-cabinet-nameless "white"... I've checked all the chips against it and it seems brighter than anything. I've debated just painting it the same Simply White but don't want to squander the opportunity to improve the look. My hunch is to go cooler and eggshell or matte.


  • 5 years ago

    Simply White is a white with a very subtle green undertone. All whites have some sort of undertone. As the poster above says, all of them will look different depending on the lighting and time of day. If you're not absolutely determined to have an all-white kitchen, go one shade darker and choose an off-white that has an undertone you do like. As the poster above said, using something that is in an adjacent room (or an off-white with the same undertone) would be a good way to go. To determine the undertone in a white, beige or gray, look at the chips on a piece of white paper without any other chips nearby. Or look at them next to each other on white. The comparison might make the undertone apparent to you then.


    If there is a BM store in your area, see if they have a color consultant on site. The ACE hardware stores that sell BM paints may not have one, but the company stores are more likely to. The person in our area store will come to your house for $100 to help you choose colors. They will be able to see the formulas for each color and know what undertone they have if you have difficulty determining it yourself.


    Or start buying samples and try various colors until you find something you like. If you're interested in painting multiple rooms the color consultant may be worth the money to avoid expensive mistakes. We tried ten different colors in the family room of our previous house before we found what we liked. I wish I had spent the $100 instead of doing that. :-) I am going to use her before painting the first floor of our new house.

    a_little_odd thanked kandrewspa
  • 5 years ago

    Thanks for your detailed reply! That's great that the BM store has a color consultant. Our area only has BM at independent sellers and Ace, but I will ask. The SW consultant is limited only to virtual meetings right now, but I'm not sure how helpful that can be since it seems to me the camera is not totally reliable for gauging color.


    As it turns out, I was just researching one of my options, BM Intense White, and Encycolorpedia says it is the same as one of the colors on the Behr Eon strip. I have the Samplize of that color and it still looked too dark though. I might see about getting a sample that is 50% lighter. Although I feel ridiculous for asking for a white to be lightened. :)

  • 5 years ago

    I think the color looks fine. The slight warmth looks good with your floors, and after you paint the door blue, that will also change the way you see the wall color. So do that first.

    a_little_odd thanked calidesign
  • PRO
    5 years ago

    BM Intense White, and Encycolorpedia says it is the same as one of the colors on the Behr Eon strip.


    Worst website ever. They don't actually measure colors. They lift RGB values from 'wherever' on the internet resulting in a hot mess of numbers that mean nothing.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Does anyone know if there are tricks in choice of paint sheen or even specific undertones of other white paint that will help downplay the color shift and help keep a more consistent tone?


    Colors don't have undertones. The theory that colors have undertones is based on nothing more than subjective opinion - other people's subjective opinion of what they think a color looks like to them under whatever random light source there happens to be.


    As far as consistency, your brain will take care of it. The function is called color constancy - sometimes in just a few days but eventually you'll forget all about it and not even notice it.


    But if you want a new color and based on the cabinets, counter top, floor, and how Simply White is actually showing up, I'd pull chips of Greek Villa, Shoji White and Agreeable Gray.

    a_little_odd thanked Lori A. Sawaya
  • PRO
    5 years ago

    After seeing your photo, I'd try a different color. The Simply White doesn't provide enough contrast and just looks off. Check out Lori Sawaya's options--she's the color expert extraordinaire!!

  • 5 years ago

    There are so many posts about white paint and undertones. I painted my entire home with Behr Ultra Scuff Defense Paint and Primer, color: off white. No yellow undertones❣️ Matte on walls and ceilings, satin on doors and moldings. It applies beautifully, no issues. I have used SW and BM paint in past homes, and love the Behr. People who have visited my home always ask me: what “white” did I use, as it looks great. The white walls nicely showcase my new oak staircase and Italian porcelain wood look tile flooring.

    a_little_odd thanked kculbers
  • 5 years ago

    I know this is an old post but could anyone share a photo of origami white in your home? I have very red wood floors and worry the yellow will pop and clash.

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