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where to put outlet next to range to meet code?

4 years ago

Hi all. Would an outlet on the left side of this cabinet on the ground ( shown with the red box) meet code? We need an outlet on the left side of the range cabinet to meet code per the inspector. This cabinet is 15 inches and the range is going in that hole. We were going to put it into the cabinet side but I do not want to modify the cabinet. A counter pop up would also need cabinet modifications because this is a rollout. There is a pocket door behind which is why we cannot put it in the wall. Can someone explain to me also why this is code and I can’t just skip this outlet? Thanks !

Comments (15)

  • 4 years ago

    First these are questions for your electrician, codes vary state to state.

  • 4 years ago

    Thanks this is northern VA inspector said side of cabinet but I will ask him if floor is fine.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    What you have an outlet near the range why any more ? I don't understand so maybe a bit more info. I understand needing an out let for certain workings of the range like piazzo starters for instance but that would be behind the range.

  • 4 years ago

    Sorry to clarify he said there needs to be an outlet there because the cabinet ( to left of range) is 15 inches so there needs to be an outlet.

  • 4 years ago

    Definitely check with your electrician because he or she should know the electrical code for your state. However I also wanted to throw out the idea of putting an outlet in the cabinet. I have one on the side of my peninsula. I think that would be more functional than in the floor.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    I guess under the counter in the side of the cabinets but really I have never heard of the 15" cabinet needing outlet just because of that My whole range wall is stone and I have no outlets except on the floor behind the range and behind two moveable cabinets there was not other places and it passed no issue. These are actually outdoor outlets becuase of where they are to protect from water

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Install plug mold under the upper cabinet.

  • 4 years ago

    It appears that there IS no upper cabinet.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    You have designed yourself into a corner, the only good option is in the side of the cabinet. A floor outlet would be an absolute no go for me, regardless the have to be within a certain distance from the counter to count.

  • 4 years ago

    Thanks. Yes I really wanted to get rid of this existing pocket door and just have a pass thru when we decided to move the range here. my husband insisted on keeping it because the laundry is behind the kitchen ( the tiled room). He wanted to be able to keep the door closed when the laundry “ gets loud”. The pocket door has caused me nothing but design problems.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    The NEC requires an outlet installed on any countertop more than 12" in width. And, no point along that countertop wall can be further than 24" from an outlet. So a floor outlet alone would not meet code, in addition to being a poor choice for a circulation route.

    You can certainly fit a shallow outlet box within a pocket door frame. A wood frame is 3/4" thick + 1/2" drywall. A metal frame is 5/8" to 3/4" thick + 1/2" drywall. So you have from 1 1/8" - 1 1/4" to fit a 1 1/4" deep shallow box. A tile backsplash might thicken the wall a bit too. This outlet would appear to be at the end of the run, so you'd have just 1 cable coming in. If more cables are coming into the box, then you can use a larger junction box with a single gang mud ring.

    A couple unsolicited notes:

    - Why is the pocket door covered with plywood? A pocket frame is sturdy enough on it's own to prevent racking. It can be covered with drywall. Besides, how are you going to finish the wall to match the adjacent drywall?

    - Are the upper outlets flanking the hood for sconces? If so why is one wedged on the left between the door header?

    - You will need to remove the hood framing to replace the pocket door plywood with drywall. While you are at it, go ahead and drywall over the wall opening behind the hood. I think I see horizontal blocking at the bottom of the open drywall, so the inspector may have let it fly for fireblocking, but I see no reason you can't just complete the drywall.

    - I see a stove gas outlet box and 240V for dual fuel? Just in case, for flexibility in the future, if there were to be only a gas stove, then you need an outlet to plug it in to run the electronics. So add an outlet down behind to be hidden by the stove.

  • 4 years ago

    Hello thank you to 3 on the tree above. My contractors said they can’t fit in a shallow outlet to the pocket door frame, not sure if they just don’t want to try. Just one yellow wire coming in. The entire back wall area will be tiled with 3x6 white subway tile floor to ceiling over the plywood and drywall next to it. I was told drywall over pocket door frame is necessary for tile. Does this cause some issue with tile installation going over the wood and drywall? It’s all 1/2 inch thick. yes will be dual fuel 36 inch. And yes to sconces , they are adjusting the exact location prior to tile. I think I’m just sticking the outlet in the side of the cabinet after all and just be done with it.

  • 4 years ago

    I mean I was told plywood over pocket door frame for tile

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    When you have two unlike materials joining like that (plywood and drywall) you risk them moving separately and cracking the tile. It might be fine or the tile guy might have a mitigation technique.

  • 4 years ago

    You need electricity to use a range, even a gas range. The outlet must be behind the range somewhere.