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110v leg off 220v

4 years ago

I have built an island in the center of my kitchen. I installed a 220v cooktop.i would like to have a couple 110v outlets in the island as well.the 220v is 2 hot and a neutral.the 110v will just be for running the occasional can opener or food processor,real light duty stuff.anyone see a problem doing this?

Comments (9)

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Code will not allow it. Why not run a separate run for the outlets?

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Separate wire and small appliance circuit is a REQUIREMENT. And an electrician and permit.

  • 4 years ago

    How were you planning on doing this? I don't think you can install a sub-panel in an island?

  • 4 years ago

    Separate run is additional 100 ft of wire back to the main panel where I would have to install a new sub panel cause I am out of spaces in the main.running a jump wire or transformer at the 220 volt already at the island and all I need is 2 ft of wire a gang box,receptical and a few other nick nack items.saving a ton of money and time .that was the motivation for running a jump from an existing 220.

  • 4 years ago

    To repeat: Code will not allow it.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    As stated by others, this would not be code-compliant in virtually any US location because NEC code has, for several versions now, required that any countertop (including island) circuits are supplied by one of two dedicated small appliance branch circuits (SABC). As far as whether you CAN do it - are you sure that the 220V run includes a neutral? Typically they do not, although it is possible that for a stove a neutral was run so that a lower voltage feature on the stove (e.g. clock) could be run off of one leg - but I'm speculating that that would ever be the case. Seems like it would be simpler to run everything in the stove off of 220V. The one scenario that comes to mind where 220V is run with a neutral is if it is a multi-wire branch circuit (MWBC). This is not an uncommon way to supply the two required SABC's (at least, here in Wisconsin, where those circuits are specifically exempt from the rquirement that they be arc fault protected). In a MWBC, a 220V line with the two hots and a neutral is run from the box, and then splits into two 110V circuits at the SABC outlets, both of them sharing the neutral. So if that is how your stove is run, then you likely can tap a MWBC off of it to supply those couple of 110V outlets. But that's some high-level wiring that should probably be left to an electrician, and (reiterating the point once again) it is not code-compliant.

  • 4 years ago

    If you're out of space in the breaker box, install a duplex breaker and run a new wire so you can do it correctly. Just because you figured out another way to do it doesn't make it code-compliant.

  • 4 years ago

    Why not extend one of the two or more small appliance circuits that are already in the kitchen?

  • 4 years ago

    Ellotwo,I like your suggestion,most cost effective and easier suggestion so far

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