Here's a specification listing for the different versions. -

3" LED Adjustable Downlight | ELEMENT Lighting (element-lighting.com)

The Static White version, available in 2700. 3000 and 3500K can produce 1800 lumens from 17 watts.

IMO pot lights are useless in high ceilings no matter how expensive they are .I always use LED 4000K everywhere in my designs and 3500K is IMO starting on the path to yellow hue. maybe tell us a bit more about the style you are going for and how high are the ceilings? I think lighting is best when planned for different levels of light and with really high ceilings I use cable lighting to get the light to wher eit actully lights a space not just the ceiling .

Hi Patricia, the ceilings are different throughout, and a gentle slope, at just 6 degrees pitch, but the ceiling heights range from 14' to 17' feet. Bathrooms, Pantry, Closet, etc are all flat 10' ceilings. I was told by the sales woman that these lights are designed for high spaces, such as in the example photos I provided, and with manipulated beam spreads, they can reach the floor no problem. I'm afraid cable lighting wouldn't match our clean, minimalist, and modern style.

Thank you, Dan. I think 1800 lumens is actually very very strong. Most recessed lights I've come across don't seem to produce even half of that.

Patricia, as Dan pointed out, these are little powerhouses that can produce 1800 lumens. From my limited research, the average recessed light only produces about half that. What's been your experience?

700 lumens are the most you'll see at Lowes, etc. These Element products accept available lens to focus the light to design the pattern based on ceiling height. And, dimming can be controlled below 1% to create repeatable scenes for areas with multiple fixtures. Windows and natural light can work during parts of some days. You live there all day and night.

We built a custom home last year and assumed our electricians had heard our request for better quality recessed light. I asked for a sample and basically they had technology from 15 years ago! We went back to the lighting showroom our builder works with and they suggested lights from Elco. It delayed our project because they took 4 weeks to arrive, but well worth the extra cost and time. We would not have been happy with the low output lights the electricians would have installed in our 12 ft ceilings.

The Elco pricing falls between big box choices and the high end commercial ones.

These are the ones we used.

https://elcolighting.com/recessed-commercial/recessed-residential/cedar-system

We have them tied into a Crestron automation system, but that is another long story, as they are having major supply chain issue getting their lighting modules!

Curious, did you go with the Elco lights?

Hi Amanda, I did go with the trimless Elco, 2” (flat ceilings) and 3” (sloped ceilings). I did the dim to warm down to 1%. They’ve worked well. I went with the clear lens because I was worried about the 1% dim being too low, but in retrospect (I may switch it out), I should have gone with a diffuser/anti-glare lens.

Thanks so much for your response! I see some people saying the Elco is more ‘spot light’ and they wish for living room the beam was wider, thoughts?