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Raised panel MDF cabinet finish

3 years ago

The raised panel MDF cabinets in my new home have a terrible finish. I've already consulted with a trusted builder/dear friend who said it is caused by the machine cuts on the raised panel not being properly prepped before painting. My builder, cabinet maker & painter (all great reputations, all who have worked together for decades) say the cabinet maker received a batch of "bad mdf" that is the problem, not the paint job.

The cabinets only received one coat of prime and one coat of paint. The flat areas of the cabinets look great. My current builder & painter say they always finish the cabinets in this way & this is the first time they have ever had this problem.

The builder, painter & cabinet maker have been trying to decide how to best handle the situation. They want to refinish the doors to see if the problem can be sloved. Originally, I too, thought this would fix the problem, believing the paint job to be the problem.

Now that the cabinet maker has said he got a "bad batch of mdf" I'm concerned that just refinishing the cabinets may be only a temporary fix. (I had a similar issue with my Pella casement windows & the wood rot from mishandling didn't set in until nearly 20 years later.)

******My question to the experts is this: Is there such a thing as a "bad batch of MDF" ? When I told the builder if it was bad MDF all the cabinets need to be replaced, he backed off really quicklys and said it wasn't really "bad" it just wasn't furniture grade. Having been told it WAS bad MDF, I'm concerned now that refinishing is just putting a bandaid on & 5 or even 10 years from now the cabinets will have to be replaced.

I have never figured out how to put pictures on this forum, but will try again. But for now, just need to know if furniture grade MDF was not used on my raised panel cabinets, will it be a problem.

Comments (4)

  • 3 years ago

    He changed brands of MDF and it bit him. Not a big deal to let him refinish 1 door and then judge if it looks good enough. Rough fibers can be sanded down and look just fine with enough work.

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  • 3 years ago

    Thanks DeWayne! Do you think this is purely an MDF problem? This is new construction home, with a $100,000 painting bill & $50k+ in cabinets. I’m pretty sure the trim detail is hardwood, which also looks bad.

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    The only bad MDF is something that crumbles in your hand. Your issue has nothing to do with the substrate choice, and everything to do with the painter’s lack of knowledge and skill. Standard MDF or higher grade HDF are fine materials for cabinet doors if the finisher knows how to finish them properly. This guy did not. He used a water based primer and raised the fibers. Then didn’t sand and moved straight to a finish coat. That is malpractice for a cabinet finisher. Which just shows that he is basically a wall ”painter”, and shouldn’t touch cabinets.

    I suggest requiring him to sand those down until smooth, and then finish them again. He won’t take on cabinets again after he does that much labor!

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  • 3 years ago

    Thanks. My trusted builder friend, says the same. My current builder has the best reputation in our area & he has used this painter for 30 years. The painter also stays booked & has a great reputation. Both claim they have never had this problem before. I am so bewildered by this situation. My husband thinks they talked the cabinet guy into taking the fall, as he has already been paid, and we still owe half to the painter. But I can't imagine the cabinet guy agreeing to this. The cabinet maker did tell my husband directly he got a "bad batch of mdf." I guess we will see if the cabinet maker back pedals when we tell him to replace all of the the "bad batch mdf" cabinets. So frustrating.