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Thoughts on tile install?

last year

I think I know answer to this but would love feedback before trying to fix. From distance, looks fine until you are in corners and seams. Thank you!

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  • PRO
    last year
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    To start the tiles in the corners should always be installed to look like the tile just bent around the corner . That takes time to figure out and IMO tiling should always be perfect on the walls you see first. So yes you have issues for sure but the choice of dark grout with white tile will show every little bit that is not right . When I see this mess my big concern always is what was the waterproofing like if this is what the guy figured was good enough install.He has used grout in the corners and probably where the wall tile meets the floor tile and that is all wrong.



    Grout, which is a cement-based material, is great for filling the spaces between tiles. But it isn't flexible enough to stay intact where a shower pan or tub meets surrounding walls. Nor is grout the right material for filling the corner joints on the walls. For these spaces, the right material is caulk.

  • last year

    Thank you! I am a remodel rookie and wasn’t sure what questions to ask etc. Do you think it needs to be redone?

  • last year

    The contractor is coming by tomorrow to discuss and I am trying to figure out best approach.

  • PRO
    last year

    A professional tile contractor plans the layout in advance. There are standards for this. The small sliver cuts are not within the standards for aesthetics. Silicone caulk is recommended for change of plane, not grout. That being said, how did you hire this contractor? Did you pay for a professional or was this a handyman job? And yes, the choice of tile and then the dark grout is only to be in the hands of a qualified tile contractor. Sorry you are dealing with this. Tough lesson on material and design choices and hiring qualified labor to execute. It's a very bad install from a professional perspective. The dark grout was a bad idea as well.

  • last year

    Tile person was a sub on a full bath remodel. So far everything else seems just fine - passed multiple inspections with new plumbing and electrical etc. So my question is… what now? Ask to tear out and start over with a better installer? Who pays for what?

  • last year

    If this is what he did with the tile, what did he do for waterproofing UNDER the tile?

  • PRO
    last year

    This work is far from ideal, but as to who pays, that depends entirely on what you agreed on. What was the agreement with the contractor about responsibility for the tile layout? Did you hire a designer? (As a designer, I am always involved in the layout of the tile with the person actually doing the work.)

    Good luck tomorrow.

  • last year

    I didn’t hire a designer (will next time) and assumed this would be professional work as it is a fully permitted, major bathroom model with added plumbing. I never thought/knew I would need to have close oversight bc I assumed everyone on the project is good at what they do. I told contractor general layout/pattern in advance.

    Do we all agree its not a fix but a do-over? Can’t see how it can be fixed.

  • last year

    I agree with the last comment, it looks very outdated and "oppressive", I can tell that the handyman spent a lot of time on this just by the presence of that hollow space for keeping shampoo etc., but if anything needs redoing - it's this...


    Perhaps you can just set a different layer of tiles on top of it instead of tearing it down?

  • PRO
    last year

    So your GC didn't hire a qualified sub to do the job. Tell him/her that you are unhappy with the tile workmanship.

  • last year

    I am going to be the voice of dissent.


    At the larger pic - this looks decent. If the waterproofing was done right, then I would love with this.


    That tile has limitations - as it's not concistent / uniform - so the grout line variability is to be expected. A master tiler would have done better -but a master tiler would have told you what to expect before s/he started. The corners could have been better - but not sure it's a do over. Agree on caulk for the change in plane areas.


    The thing that sticks out more to me is the niche. Is there a piece of pencile tile or edge tile missing from 7pm to 9pm of the area were a clock? That's the thing I find the most off putting. (and the whole niche thing is over rated / usually the most poorly executed). I'd try to fix the edge (with VERY careful cutting / removal) and put stuff in it to hide the back ASAP.

  • last year

    Thank you! As far as the over abundance of grout in all change of planes - including where wall and floor tile meet, would we just remove the grout? I’m also seeing cracks already in grout - is this normal? Agree niche is a disaster - and yes a piece of bullnose broke when he was grouting.

  • PRO
    last year

    Sorry but IMO a do over it would make me crazy forever. Just FTI when having any work done on your home always assume the worst and ask questions and check work Make the contract make sense yto you and if that requires many talks then so be it.

  • last year

    Thanks. Feeling very sick about this, in terms of added cost to already an expensive remodel. But at the end of day it’s just money right? 😳😵‍💫😬

  • last year

    It isn’t YOUR money. The GC is responsible for the work of his subs. Let him know that you want a professional looking outcome (which this is NOT).

  • last year

    Thank you :)

  • last year

    Your walls may have not-been square

    J S thanked A Mat
  • last year

    Hopefully the walls were waterproofed before tiling. If not, that's a big problem. On the other hand, if they were, redoing parts of the tiling may well compromise the waterproofing.

  • last year

    Since the GC has to have it redone anyway, make sure you take pictures of what the waterproofing is that the tile guy installed under the tile. If he's this bad at tile, he's probably not skilled or knowledgeable about waterproofing. Then when a real tile professional comes to the job site, ask the GC to join you and have a discussion about waterproofing; like what the pro's preferred method and materials are. Each pro will have preferences of what materials they want to work with. So you're not telling them how, you're asking them what they are planning for waterproofing. You can post their answer here to ask the pros on here if their plan is correct or not. Surprising how many tile guys mess up the waterproofing, happened to me. GC hired cheap unskilled tile bro who screwed it up. After real pro came, all was done correctly.

  • PRO
    last year
    last modified: last year

    At the very least, you need to have the grout at the changes of plane dug out and replaced with a matching silicone caulk. You might try https://colorriteinc.com/color-rite/