Just gorgeous, Melissa!

Wow...your EdL is a wonder. I'll have to show your photo to my EdL, and hope it either encourages it, or makes it jealous (this, assuming it bounces back from our horrible winter. Right now it's pathetic, through no fault of its own, lol).

Kim and John, thanks!

John, I get the impression warm climate roses have an uphill climb where you garden, unlike here. One thing about 'Gloire de Lyon' is that in my experience it's slow to get going. I've got a couple of own-root plants, both of which I think will eventually become great big hefty Teas, but they're taking their time about it. This rose is grafted, but I doubt that makes a difference.

Rose ARE wonders.

Lovely!

Absolutely gorgeous pictures Melissa! I'm getting excited about Jaune Desprez, looking at this image (now to start figuring out how to actually build my pergola, ha ha!). That Etoile de Lyon is fabulous!

I love your Juane Desprez, Melissa! A picture you posted of this rose a while back is the reason I have a small one from Burling growing in my nursery area. I am really curious what makes the difference in color with this rose…soil? Climate? Both? I am very fond of pink roses and the JD that Catspa grows up into her tree is fabulous (and pink) and I certainly won’t be disappointed if mine flourishes like that. However, I love the soft apricot colors and was hoping mine would be that color. I’m curious what color mine will be in my dry heat.

Thanks, folks!

John, is your 'Monsieur Tillier' our 'Archduke Joseph', or a different variety? I know there's some confusion around the name. As a Florida native I know something about those flash changes, less about how tender plants react to them. Italian weather just doesn't do things like that. Also, temperatures here don't fall below 20F that often. I can recall one time when it got down to below 10F: it froze back my Lady Banks roses hard, one to the ground. They all came back, though. That was I think the only time my roses ever suffered significant damage from the cold. Anyway, good luck to you in your cultivation of warm climate roses! By the way, have you tried 'Mrs. B.R. Cant'?

judijunebug, amount of sun and temperatures may make a difference; I can't say about soil, but certainly wouldn't discard the idea. I hope you and K S like your 'Jaune Desprez', a beautiful rose (tough, too) if large and prickly. It drapes elegantly and looks soft, so the thorns always catch me off guard. The color of the blooms on my rose is in the area of what I call "ice cream": a very soft blend of pale yellow, buff, and a touch of peach or pink, indescribable, but lovely. Note: looking at the photo again, it's a bit more peach than I just suggested. The colors in the photo are true.

Melissa, as far as I know, the Monsieur Tillier I have isn't what is sold as AJ in Europe. AJ can tend toward pink, and only occasionally shows the carmine and brick red that my rose shows consistently. He's huge (for growing in a pot), and some of his canes are at least 2" in diameter. Mine came from Vintage, one of my last purchases from them. I can't say that the real thing is even in commerce here, but if it ever were, Vintage would have been the ones to have the correct one. So all I can say with some certainty is that I don't think it's AJ, lol.

I lost a HUGE Lady Banks and Madame Alfred Carriere when we experienced one of those Polar Expresses. The LB was on a south wall, so that actually surprised me. The MAC was exposed in a tree, so that DIDN'T surprise me. But I haven't replaced either of them. It hurts losing roses that big, as you well know.

Oops, I forgot to address your question about Mrs B.R. Cant. I have her, and I call her "Mrs. B.R. CAN". She can, and she does, lol. She's my second largest Tea, after Mons, Tillier.

Magnificent Jaune Desprez! You and your sister must have had a real treat when it was in full bloom. Your EdH and EdL are really something special, too. I hope this will be a good spring for your roses.

This is why I love tea roses.

Fig, if it makes you feel any better, I have trouble with giganteas, too. The only one I've managed to grow is Emmanuela de Mouchy.

Melissa, your roses are such stunners. It's late now but tomorrow I'm going outside to tell my roses (i.e. small sticks that barely peek over the alyssum) that they have a lot of growing to do!

Oh, Ingrid, let them hide. They may need a bit of protection from sun while they grow. Good luck with them!

My massive climbers are all around the house and down in the woods, the latter meaning the Banksiaes. I've never been able to get anything going in the big garden: too open, the soil too heavy, I don't know what. My hope is that year after year of weeds, grass, shrubs, trees getting started, will make the area friendlier to roses. Oh, yes, and of course, growing them close to the drainage ditches: 'Reve d'Or' is finally taking hold there. The Wichuriana ramblers and Ayrshires do rather better than other classes of ramblers and large flowered climbers. In brief, my experience can't be summarized.

Thanks for all the kind words, folks.

John, actually, I've never lost a large, well-established rose (box is another story). I'm surprised your 'Mme. Alfred Carrière' died--completely--I thoughtlessly would have supposed she was hardier than that. MAM has never struck me as being a typical Noisette. Less surprised about the Lady Banks, and that must have been crushing, both of them. When my Lady Banks roses got killed back, two great big ones about 80%, a younger adolescent to the ground, they all grew back. That hard freeze was five years ago, and all three are as big as they were before it happened, and growing like gangbusters, even with the drought.

Beautiful roses.

@judijunebugarizonazn8 The color of 'Jaune Desprez' flowers is very much affected by light and temperature, at least, with light maybe the more dominant of those two. Here are some photos I just took of mine. My hand is holding these two different flowers up because they are nodding, downward-facing flowers that have not been directly hit by sunlight. See how yellow they are versus the pinker, outward-facing flowers around them? Heat generally makes the flowers go even pinker. Edit to note that Italy's latitudes are higher than those of California, making their sunlight less intense. This was something I really noticed upon returning to California after gardening in Massachusetts for some years -- California's direct sunlight is much stronger than direct sunlight in Massachusetts, especially in summer, mainly because of that difference in latitude.

Interesting, catspa! Thank you for taking the time to take those photos of the different colors on your plant. I suppose that with the intense sunshine we have here in Arizona, I can expect that mine will mostly show pinker tones. My plant is very small yet, but my plan is to plant it on the inside of my rock wall where it will receive morning light and afternoon shade, both from the wall and a mesquite tree just outside the wall.I’m hoping that it will climb up into the tree once it scales the wall. At that point, if it gets huge like yours, some will be getting afternoon sun. That part might turn more pink. What a fun experiment to look forward too!