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Detente - The Squirrels and I

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

I hesitated about writing this post because I'm so bummed about what Melissa and Bart are enduring in this endless hot and dry summer. But then I thought, surely I deserve to feel some hope after losing all my roses three years ago, living without a single one until recently and then losing dozens of young roses again. Now the squirrel population seems to be considerably decreased, as far as I can tell, and my latest batch of own-root roses is putting on new growth, and even the one rose that they ate all the leaves off is slowly putting out tiny leaves again. As I mentioned on another thread I took the advice of someone to put used kitty litter down the squirrel holes that were nearby and since then I'm seeing significantly fewer squirrels in the rose area.

This morning I had the gardener cut down an ugly juniper that is in that area which will free up more space for roses and had him trim back a large Ficus Benjamina to allow more light to reach them. I feel that I've reached a new level of hope and happiness and wanted to share that with all of you. I can't thank you enough for the love and support you've given me over these past months of uncertainty and experimentation.

Comments (26)

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Ingrid,

    You've gone through a trial few rose growers will ever experience, especially to the epic proportions in your case. Getting off the ground and back into the saddle speaks volumes of your incomparable spirit of endurance, and is an inspiration to me and as it is, I am sure, to anyone who knows your story.

    I know that you will keep us inspired. God bless you and give you strength to face future hurdles as we both know, they do come!

    Moses

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked Moses, Pitt PA, cold W & hot-humid S, z6
  • 3 years ago

    Ingrid, this is great to hear this wonderful news. Here is hoping you can have your roses lift your spirits again.

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 3 years ago

    Good luck, Ingrid! May your roses grow and bloom (and the squirrels not eat them)!

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked Melissa Northern Italy zone 8
  • 3 years ago

    I'm soooooo excited for you, Ingrid!!! Roses bring us all such joy in so many ways...plus think of all the bees, etc. that will benefit from your roses! You deserve this, and I'm so glad you persevered!! Way to go!

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked rosecanadian
  • 3 years ago

    Great news, Ingrid. Just know how many people are thrilled that things are going better for you.

  • 3 years ago

    You certainly have every right in the world to feel happy, Ingrid,and I wish you the BEST. It would do Melissa and myself no good whatsoever for you to deny yourself happiness-far from not helping our situation in any way, shape or form, it actually cheers me to hear some good news for a change! Keep up the good work!

  • 3 years ago

    This is great to hear Ingrid. Gardening is always an exercise of hope, but in your case, even more so. I am hoping for beauty and joy for you.

  • 3 years ago

    Yes, I am a very happy girl. These are the roses I have now, including the five that are arriving later this month:

    Wild Edric

    Purple Skyliner

    Cl. Caroline Testout

    Lady Ashe

    Ginger Syllabub

    Grandmother's Hat

    Darlow's Enigma

    Conrad Ferdinand Meyer

    Quicksilver

    Mlle. Franziska Krueger

    Madame Bovary

    St. Elizabeth of Hungary

    I wanted to experience roses that were new to me but I couldn't resist having the beautiful Mlle. Franziska Krueger again, a tea rose that can be difficult but at the best of times is so beautiful.

  • 3 years ago

    Good news!

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked erasmus_gw
  • 3 years ago

    Ingrid - I'm excited to see blooms next year of these lovely roses! :) :) :)

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked rosecanadian
  • 3 years ago

    I’m so happy for you!

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked Markay MD-Zone 7B
  • 3 years ago

    That is so encouraging Ingrid. A true garner is lost without her muse. I pray that your garden will give you years of abundant joy.

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
  • 3 years ago

    Thank you, my dear friends. I was just outside to look at how my roses are faring. We're having the strangest weather here, days and days of cloudy, cool weather where normally this is the hottest, driest month of the year where we are constantly aware of the wildfire danger. It's very welcome although I'm sure the roses would appreciate a little sun. The next ten days are also going to be cloudy, so it will be interesting to see whether the roses will continue to grow under these conditions.

  • 3 years ago

    Ingrid, such wonderful news! I'm so happy the used kitty litter trick is working for you. Like I said, I don't know if it's the kitty litter or our increasing coyote population, but I have had not a single wood chuck in the garden for the first time in over 26 years! And the beauty part of it is that, if you have a cat (or cats) it's pretty much an ever-renewable resource, lol! I'm looking forward to hearing about how your beautiful roses are doing, and I hope they give you many years of joy!

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked User
  • 3 years ago

    Ingrid - they're still getting sun...they'll be fine. :)

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked rosecanadian
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Dear Frances, so it was you, and I'm so grateful! I truly think that, apart from my not feeding the squirrels any more, the kitty litter is the one thing that turned the tide. I would never use any method that would hurt the squirrels but this is something that deters without harming them, and I wish you were here so that I could give you many hugs to thank you.

    rosecanadian, I'm glad you feel that the roses are still benefiting in spite of the cloudy weather. I am noticing that Grandmother's Hat, which seems to be my most vigorous rose, is visibly putting on inches on the branch that had new growth. I'm quite sure that I'll be completely overcome when I see the first bud. And that will be nothing compared to what I'll feel when they are all blooming!

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Ingrid, very happy to you! I hope your rose babies will be safe and thrive. You deserve this little happiness🌹

    Regarding the used cat litter, I used it early spring to fill a hole in the yard. When it rains it turned to a mushmushy mudd mess. half a year later now the area is covered with grass. I am wondering when put in the flower bed, what does it look like? I am wondering whether it can deter moles and voles too? I lost a few roses to them early soring. Also I vaguely remember in one of Straw’s thread, she or somebody mentioned some ingredients in litter is beneficial to the rose but can’t be sure

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked forever_a_newbie_VA8
  • 3 years ago

    The plain kitty litter may be beneficial but the one I use has deodorant in it and I don't think that would be good to use in the garden. Also I imagine you'd have to keep adding new litter for it to keep its deterrent qualities, so all in all probably not a good idea. It would be a dream come true if someone were to invent a fool-proof pest deterrent, but then I tell myself that it's we humans who are invading their space and on top of that often try to kill them, and I find myself questioning the ethics of it all. Still, the kitty litter doesn't harm them so I'm at peace with that method.

  • 3 years ago

    Ingrid, that is true. I use the clumping type so it might not be good for the garden. I ordered the castor oil and am going to give a try.

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked forever_a_newbie_VA8
  • 3 years ago

    Ingrid...so happy to hear that your squirrels have given up and your roses are growing!

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked Rosylady (PNW zone 8)
  • 3 years ago

    I'm glad to hear that a combination of tactics is keeping the roses alive. I just want to mention briefly that one should be careful to keep used kitty litter far away from vegetable gardens, especially for veggies you plan to eat raw. https://gardening.usask.ca/articles-and-lists/articles-animals/cats,-turds-and-birds.php

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked Steve_M in PA
  • 3 years ago

    Congrats Ingrid, great news!

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked SoCalGardenNut
  • 3 years ago

    For sure, Steve, and I wouldn't want to put the kitty litter anywhere except the one place I have it, at the entrance to the squirrel burrow. I don't think there is any deterrent that would stop the squirrels if I tried to grow vegetables. They would of course assume that they were meant only for them.

  • 3 years ago

    Ingrid - I'm doing a Happy, Happy Rose Dance for you!!! We are all SO delighted for you!!!

    Ingrid_vc zone 9b, San Diego Co. inland thanked rosecanadian
  • 3 years ago

    Ingrid - yup, I hear you. I want better for my roses...I know I can do better and I know you can too! We will create our own symphonies. :)