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Help me layout this space in new build

2 years ago

We are rebuilding a lake house but must keep the original footprint (exterior walls only) due to zoning rules. Can you help me maximize the powder room/laundry room/master bath and closet? I’d love a double sink in the master.

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  • 2 years ago

    Do the stairs go up or down? Could you move the laundry to the other floor?

  • 2 years ago

    They go down. We are trying to plan ahead for aging in place so we’d like laundry on the main floor but are fine with stacking units.

  • 2 years ago

    Good thought—thanks. That bedroom is small but I’ll see if that would work with a king bed

  • 2 years ago

    I agree with AuntThelma about moving the closet. Going with something like this YHL wall of warbdrobes gives you loads of storage, increased sound proofing with living room, moves your clothes out of the bathroom, and increases the footprint of your bathroom (a plus for planning to age in place!)



  • 2 years ago

    moving the closet will make the bedroom 11x11.5 feet, pretty small for a king bed. the closet might have to have bifold or bypass doors. But it will create a nice entry-type space to the bedroom, so it isn’t so much part of the living room.

    If yiu do that, can yiu flip the bathroom so the shower is on the outside wall? then you can move the door to near where the shower is now, so no one is walking all the way around the bed, and also making the bath a little more private.

  • 2 years ago

    We are still planning so sky is the limit. We just are stuck with the exterior footprint but it will be new construction. I do like that style of closet. Great thoughts—thank you!

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Consider engaging a local architect to design a home with you that meets your needs and fits the site.

  • 2 years ago
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    Maybe something along these lines might work? There’s no bathtub though I put the shower on the stairs wall and stacked the w/d.

  • 2 years ago

    Another thought is without the closet in the bathroom, you could extend it all the way to the exterior wall == window in the bathroom! Also, moving the W/D towards the exterior wall gives you a shorter route to vent the dryer (and folks don't have to walk past the laundry room to get to the powder room) - here's a version with them stacked





  • PRO
    2 years ago

    You have provided little information that might help someone come up with a better layout.

    Will this be a full time residence?

    Is there a view to the lake, and if so, which direction?

    What's downstairs?

    What is the lot like? Is it sloped?

    It sounds like you have complete freedom in the plan, as long as you stay within the original footprint. Is anything existing -- any structure?

    What, if anything is set and cannot be moved?

  • 2 years ago

    You really need an architect who can guide you. Maybe moving the stairs will open up possibilites. Do you need a dining area or will a large island with seating suffice. Maybe a table instead of an island. Maybe cabinets in the kitchen with storage instead of the corner pantry.

  • 2 years ago

    Thanks for all the ideas. This will be a year round second home. The lake is out the family room windows and large master window. Lot is sloped. We will have a walkout family room, 2 bedrooms, a full bath and storage in basement. We will tear down the existing structure and rebuild but zoning rules dictate we must use the existing exterior footprint and cannot add square footage. We have a builder managing the process and our plans go to an architect soon. I prefer a pantry to more cabinetry due to how we work in the kitchen. We do want both a table (small) and an island. I appreciate your thoughts and ideas.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    and our plans go to an architect soon


    You take plans to a drafter, you get plans from an architect -- big difference.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    One of the toughest tasks an architect has is to let a client down softly when they let them know their floor plan is not very good.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I know this is minor in the grand scheme, but is there anyway to put the door into the bedroom somewhere else? It’s such a public placement now. Anybody in the kitchen can easily see your bed.

  • 2 years ago

    To littlebug's point, possibly without the double sink the the en-suite the bathroom could shifted towards the exterior wall and the entrance to the bedroom moved. Not completely private but improved



  • 2 years ago

    Even moving the bedroom door to the far left would be an improvement.


  • 2 years ago

    What is the rationale behind 2 sinks? Storage seems like it would be more important here. how often do 2 people need to be using a bathroom sink at precisely the same time?

  • 2 years ago
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    This is what you actually have to work with, right? A blank interior, nothing defining where things, rooms, spaces, go. Can you move windows and exterior doors? I wonder if the stairs should stay there, or if there is any benefit to moving them, giving them a turn, etc? Would the plumbing have to stay on the two sides, or can that move as well? Municipal or well and septic? Any fixed HVAC?

  • 2 years ago

    My master bath is next to my master bedroom but not accessible from inside my master bedroom.


    I don't have an issue with this - works well for me. It would give you some options to expand the closet space, have a larger vanity, Not sure if I calculated the measurements perfectly - may need to do a stacked w/d or an 18" deep vanity, but this should be close to what you have to work with.