You want your can lights to light your hands when you are working. Usually they are aimed near the edge of the countertop. So over the cooktop if you are not putting in a hood that would block the light, over the sink (making sure it is not lighting the back of your head instead of the sink). The amount of light produced is not based on the size of the can light, it's based on the bulb inside, so I would definitely stay with one size can to be more uniform.

Since the fan will be removed I would put a flush mount light there to give general light to the kitchen, with the can lights being your task lighting.

For a quick master's class on kitchen lighting, consider reading this article: https://languageoflight.blog/2023/01/11/dont-do-this-kitchens/#more-2903

I’d prefer not to use a flush light but instead will be going with canisters. Appreciate the link you provided. It was some help.
What I’m looking for are ppls ideas on how many lights and specific placement on the ceiling where they would go without adding too much lighting. Also wonder if I should have two seperate lighting canister scenarios, like One for over counters, like in the moc draw up. Then a few elsewhere to be turned on by a second switch ?
Electrician is coming this week. And more input the better.

Thank you

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What do you mean by a canister light? I just wonder why you prefer that over a recessed light.

Unclear, as the drawings don't match the pictures. Are you changing the cabinet layout and removing the window behind stove and making the sink pass-through smaller? Is that a ceiling light sneaking in the pic over the outside door?

Recessed light I meant to say

I mocked what my layout is on the drawing. It’s probably the different angle views throwing you off. We are not changing anything in kitchen. I added the doorways, window and pass through on drawing

I would do a grid just like above. A grid doesn't put every light exactly where you need it, but it looks much better than having a random assortment of recessed lights scattered around the ceiling.

Decide the LED light you want to use and make sure the downlight you select will accommodate the bulb. I would select a PAR 30 or 20 to use.

3onatree. Thank you for marking the picture up. This is what I was asking for. Markups! TY The picture looks well balanced. I have a question about the light above the sink. Does it need centered over the sink or the pass through. Or does it matter?

Beverly. Thank you for the helpful bulb suggestions. I may go with either Juno wafer downlights or gimble lights. They translate to lumens . If you have any suggestions on those for a10x14 I’d like to know what your thoughts are.

I would never use a wafer light unless there was no clearance in the ceiling. The quality of light from those fixtures offers no 'sparkle' to a room. Additionally, I like to change out bulbs to suit the lighting needed.

There were 2 areas which required making fixture placement judgments, and really there probably isn't a wrong answer in this kitchen as it sits, because they are minor adjustments, just explaining thought process:

- The sink needs a task light directly overhead. But the offset pass-through, upper cabinets, DW/sink reading together, and the ref having large side gaps lend to a non-symmetrical space. So with the static point being the corner by the DW, it's not as noticeable whether the light over the sink is centered on the faucet, or not centered being halfway between the DW corner light and ref light. I chose uniform spacing for the drawing.

- The other area is what is across from the stove. The stove really needs a direct task light, but the room as a whole would survive without that one, so I didn't put one over the garbage can. Also I chose to align the hutch light with a grid because the hutch is moveable.

If you go LED wafer or integral retrofit LED fixtures, they will probably be in the range of 750-950 lumens, and the dimmer will give you adjustment. You don't need to use gimbal lights here.

3onthetree. Thank you for explaining this so well. It helped greatly! :)