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Help with trim color

2 years ago

We are in the process of solidifying trim colors (and i guess wall colors at some point soon)


cabinets are brighter white than I want but its what we are going with for other reasons. Trim in previous kitchen (before reno) and adacent living room is creamy white (more yellow than alabaster). For new kitchen, the trim on the cabinets will match the bright white. Can we do alabaster trim on ceiling, and have a backsplash like below to bring some warmth in? Counters are white calcatta with neutral and gold veining. White oak floors. Navy island. Gold hardware.


Pictures below show backsplash we were thinking about, as well as current off white trim with cabinets.


Will this work or are there other ideas of colors to soften the starkness?




Comments (14)

  • 2 years ago

    So trim on ceiling to match the bright white cabinets, and warm with accessories. Neutral wall color and back splash will work, though, right?

  • 2 years ago

    Yep. Its very hard to mix white paints and get a pleasing result, so best to use the same white, in different sheens.

    Katie S thanked cat_ky
  • 2 years ago

    SW Alabaster looks dingy next to White.

    Katie S thanked Lyn Nielson
  • 2 years ago

    How separate are the kitchen and the other rooms? If the kitchen is separate you could match everything in the kitchen to the cabinets and keep the rest of the trim in the other rooms the warmer white.

    Katie S thanked palimpsest
  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    It sounds as though you want a Navy and White kitchen with Calacatta gold counters. I’m not entirely sure why you are choosing trim color before you have chosen a wall color, but as others have pointed out, it’s best to keep your kitchen whites the same. You can warm things up by choosing a non-white wall color though. It’s not going to be yellow, but it could look something like this. Warm brass faucet, lighting, and cabinet pulls also get you warmer without getting you into hot water (see what I did there? 😂) with your color choice.



    Bringing in as much wood as you can will also warm up the space. Below they used a wood island but you can use dining furniture, cutting boards, or island seating to accomplish something similar.


    Katie S thanked eam44
  • 2 years ago

    @eam44 one reason I am asking is because of other rooms and a domino effect, but the primary reason is I’m worried about the bright white and was wondering if bringing in the off white would warm it up, and sounds like there are better ways to do that.


    We do have a wooden dining table that will be in the room and wooden floating shelves with gold hardware. We will use warmer lighting as well. Thanks for the ideas.

  • 2 years ago

    I happen to really like cream and white together if they are done well. Have you considered painting your walls the same color as the trim?


    Most of the examples I have seen are cream colored cabinets with white trim, but I think it might work doing the opposite.


    Your white and cream look different enough that it should feel intentional, not like your tried to match the whites and missed.


    https://www.homeglowdesign.com/2016/08/27/cream-white-kitchens-stroke-genius/

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Can we do alabaster trim on ceiling, and have a backsplash like below to bring some warmth in?


    No.


    White kitchen cabinets strike the baseline of white for millwork in the entire house (typically the entire house).


    You can do a warmer, off-white on the walls but it has to have more chroma than the color of white on the cabinets and it has to make sense with the white Calacatta with neutral and gold veining.


    If you take the Calacatta on up on the walls (countersplash) it will edit the number of elements you have to deal with and make it easier to round off the white cabinets into an overall, cohesive white-on-off-white color scheme.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I don't agree that trim color for the entire house has to be dictated by a single cabinet finish, particularly in rooms that are completely separate from each other, even if the trim is all "white."

    I grew up in a house with bright white tile and fixtures in the bathrooms, kitchen and laundry room, and the cabinets matched the white tile and the white floor in the kitchen.

    But the house was very traditional colonial revival, and matching the all the woodwork to match the white bathtubs (and cabinetry color) well, it would have been much too bright and it would have looked terrible. So those living and bedrooms rooms were a softer white. (It was also modulated very slightly in a bedroom or two where the "white" ground of the wallpaper was not the same white. (Harder to keep track of than being able to touch up the entire house out of one can.)

    It all looked "white", although there was obviously a split finish on the bathroom doors and trim. But really that was probably less objectionable than having the white fireplace paneling in the living room and wainscotting in the dining room the same bright white as the refrigerator and the bathtubs.

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I agree it's situational.

    Which I why I emphasized "typically the entire house".

    Consistent millwork color is more common than multi colored.

    Altho I am seeing the popularity of color drenching challenging that a bit.

  • 2 years ago

    Color drenching is too specific and too much work for most people, and not that easily modified in the future. And then you have to keep good records of what everything is. I am doing it right now and it's a pain, particularly with saturated colors.

    When you use different paint sheens, there are slight differences, and when you use different paint formulas there can be significant differences it the same color. I am using an acrylic and an oil base, and on some walls they match, in some lights they match and on some walls they don't.

    In one room we had to do five samples then of the conversion varnish to get a match. I am not sure I would do the exercise again.

    On the other hand I feel like matching woodwork throughout the entire house with no variation whatsoever can start to have a bit of a generic production build kind of quality, in some situations.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Interesting.


    You'd think color drenching would be less work - because all one color. It's not. Some pro painters don't have their arms around pricing it out yet. I know two who were game to do it but barely broke even on the jobs.


    Haven't had a chance to catch up with them to get the download of 'lessons learned' to know exactly how it ate time/labor/product.

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    IMO the easy answer is all one color and as said just change sheens that will give you a feel of different colors then . IMO if that is too much choose a color for the walls and the white trim a nice classic look