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Honey Oak Help!!!

2 years ago

I desperately need help with changing the honey oak in my home. What’s the best way?
Part of me wants to do it all white the other part wants to stain it dark. Please help!

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  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Please show the entire space. I think the wood is beautiful. It doesn't look like honey oak. Maybe modernizing your furnishngs or wall paint would make you feel differently. You have a lot of greenery in view, and the wood connects your outdoors to your indoors. Slow down.


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    Here is how to post a Design Dilemma to get the best results. You need to show the whole space—all four sides of an entire space—even if it’s about one specific Dilemma.

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6417709/unofficial-design-dilemma-boot-camp

    Keep in mind that you're inviting some design pros and people with a design eye into your home via photos. If they walked into your actual space, they would take in all of it: all four sides, doorways, floors, windows, ceiling, built-in fixtures, lighting, trim--the "givens"--then the features that can be changed--furnishings, paint, art, rugs, decor items, etc. It's all one first impression. Same thing with photos. That's why it's important to provide well lit photos of the entire space, taken from all sides of a room regardless of the size of your problem.

  • 2 years ago

    If you are asking for inexpensive or simple ways to change color and have results that equal what's there now in quality and class,there are none I'm aware of. It is less time consuming and more cost effective to replace wood than stain a different color. It's less material cost and labor to paint any color you like than to stain but it isn't simple by a long margin when compared to new construction.


    Painting over stained trim,doors and wall covering is a favorite hack of house flippers. Unless extensive prep is preformed the paint job might look great,,,,,until something brushes against it causing paint to peel off. If there's pets or kids in the house there will be dozens of spots miss paint within a year. Compounding the problem is that spots where paint is missing is contrasting color 90% of time.


    I'm not saying it can't be done but I am saying you better hire the best contractor you know of and prepared to pay a premium.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Your home is beautiful. I can't imagine not celebrating it. I do not care for oak painted--ever so if you want darker or white I think you need to re-trim out the entire house and that would be $$$$

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    PAINT. Gallons and gallons of trim paint/labor, after you remove the dark/ unnecessary trim molding atop the windows. Along with a floor refinish to you pick it lighter or darker finish.

    Show the rest of the house...........especially the adjacent kitchen and living area.

  • 2 years ago

    I’d leave the lovely trim and paint the walls a different color

  • 2 years ago

    Have you seen oak painted before? If you want it to be smooth it will need to be filled or you will still see the grain.

  • 2 years ago

    In the pic, the largest area of golden color is the floor. I might think about refinishing the floors and leaving the trim. If that's not an option, perhaps some area rugs to give some relief from all the wood. I think the trim is really pretty.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    "Grain" is just grain. Agree with the op....too much o.r.a.n.g.e: ) and I doubt darker improves the look. Not to mention, we aren't seeing the rest.

  • 2 years ago

    Housegal's first photo shows how the wall color can make a lot of wood work. The color is so complimentary. I’m afraid the grey color of your dining area isn’t doing it for the space. If that element was adjusted then you might think differently about the wood.

  • 2 years ago

    I love your space. I love the wood. I know, I know, you look at images of homes that are all white with beautiful views but your wood is beautiful too.


    So now to the floors. I have deep dark stained floors and I love them but the dark stain may not look so nice with the wood trim you have everywhere. I assume you are keeping the wood trim windows? You may need to do lighter. And lighter could still work with the wood casing on the windows and trim


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    I can't help myself.. Look how gorgeous this is... The wood and the white and the views all work together to create a beautiful space.

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    And of course you could paint everything white and go with a dark or light floors like this...



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    or light floors and remove every trace of honey oak

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  • 2 years ago

    "Grain" is just grain. SOOOO not true!! Oak grain you cann actually FEEL! It's much more pronounced and is not smoothed out by paint. Many other woods you can paint and yet the grain peeks through depending on how many coats you put on but oak is extremely noticeable. Some might find that look ok. Many do not. There's a huge difference when the grain is there so you know it's real wood vs grain that is screaming at you still.

  • 2 years ago

    The most obvious problem is the lavender gray wall paint.

    Beyond that, there is too much trim. And the reason is that the windows were individually set. There should have been large headers framed in so that a gang of 2 windows could have been set in. That would have eliminated the doubled up side casing between each pair of windows on every angle of the bay. Noting that this is an affliction with all of the windows but is especially bothersome in the bay.

    Bay would be better with 3 angles vs the 4 angle configuration.

    There is a combination of wood--oak (or is it ash? I'm thinking this is ash) and ? Cherry? Ash has a tendency to 'yellow' much more than oak does.

    Trim would have been better with a wider head casing and no crown. And all one wood with no contrast.

    So, basically this is a scale & proportion problem. There is almost as many square inches of trim as there are square inches of glazing. And the contrasting wood underscores the problem. The eye is confused: Do I look at the trim or do I look out the window & the view beyond?

    If you do nothing and decide to only paint, IMO, the trim should be painted the same color as the walls.



  • 2 years ago

    Wall color and adding color in general will give your house a whole new feeling. The oak needs contrast so it acts more of a supporting role. Add color in decor and paint and I bet it will be beautiful.

  • 2 years ago

    Warm white on all the walls, because the grey doesn't compliment the wood.


    Lots and lots of floor coverings. Neutral, single colored.


    And get rid of the weird darker wood that abuts all the trim.

  • 2 years ago

    Lots of good advice here from people who know more about wood than I do. It seems to me that painting or re-staining all the wood would be an enormous undertaking. Could just the dark pieces above the windows be removed? Perhaps paint the walls a warmer neutral? Also paint the thin dark strip above the baseboards the same color as the walls to help it disappear.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    So you can see the difference in painting the trim but still having wood floors.

  • 2 years ago

    Adding surrounding area. The more comments I see the more I want to just leave it. I do need to do something with the Kitchen. Was thinking grey for the cabinets. I just can’t find the software so I can see what it would look like. I may need professional help!

  • 2 years ago

    Additional photos

  • 2 years ago

    The house is currently empty. The pictures are from the listing when the previous owners were still in the house. I am going up this weekend if you want to see it empty

  • 2 years ago

    No to gray cabinets.

  • 2 years ago

    Yes, take photos of the house without the current owner’s furniture. I am with the team that says “work with it”. The color of the walls, furniture, rugs and accessories can make the house look beautiful.

    I think of all the old houses that have dark trim. At some point that went out of style, but some brave owners didn’t paint them. If you leave the oak trim, you can deep-dive into how to work with it.

    The current color of the walls certainly doesn’t help reduce the “orange-ness” of the trim.

  • 2 years ago

    Oak wood is classic and clean and timeless element. Everything white is a trend that will pass. If you paint it, it will subject to marring and it will be almost impossible to do anything with it after that. And, as some have said, oak has a strong grain in it.


    I wish I had oak anything in my house. But it is a cheaply built tract house and has no such luxury of real wood anything . Consider yourself forutnate to have such a lovely space with real wood.

    I can hardly imagine the precise work needed to stain it darker. That sounds extremely labor intensive.

  • 2 years ago

    All the polyurethane has to be stripped off, which means taking the wood to another location to work on, outside, work room etc. This results in rough raised grain needing sanding but ya want to sand down below the layer the 'honey' stain color penetrated. If you are dealing with solid oak this is possible. If you are dealing with oak plywood it gets trickier. Then you apply new stain. The wood may not take it as evenly as ya want. Minwax has a product "poly-shades" that will help darken the oak if you aren't liking just the stain. So yes it's a long laborious process. Unless you DIY it, it will cost enough that one is motivated to price out an all new trim out. Easiest would be to hope it's not oak and paint, but when you consider you will be forever touching up paint possibly over time it may not be all that cost effective.