Where is the designer of the house on this issue?

Hi Mark,

We live in Florida. We already signed off of the plans and have broken ground. I am trying to see if I can resolve my concern, with just interior wall changes.

By the way, Mark, thank you for your input on my last design dilema post; it was helpful.

The most qualified person to make changes to the design at this point is the designer of the house, theoretically. Being that they initially created a "tunnel closet"* and several other questionable design decisions, in my mind, you may be better off getting design advice from strangers that know next to nothing about you or your project. I almost never suggest two doors to get access to any bathroom (two get locked, one gets unlocked).

With that said consider this concept:

* Hopefully it will not become the "[negative adjective] tunnel closet" after a time of use.

You don’t want to see a toilet immediately upon entry (if it can be helped) you don’t want a Z shaped travel path, you don’t want two doors in a bathroom. Marks solution is an elegant fix.

Oof ppf. I vote for ppf (sorry mark, I had read your earlier comment )

What PPF shows you is the best. You do not want two entries to the bathroom especially not one from the atrium. Would you end up labeling the door in the atrium so guests know it is a bathroom and not an entry? I would do the hallway.

HALLETT & Co. is right, PPF.'s is better than mine by far!

PPF plan is amazing. That’s the answer

This if a great idea, PPF! Thank you so much for taking the time to respond.

I had not thought about locating the door outside of the bathroom. It makes much more sense. I think the door in the bathroom was complicating the layout.

Additionally, I think it would be visually pleasing to walk down the hall and see the door, which will be a full panel glass door.

Here is the layout of the "utility" deck, on the opposite side of the door. I just need to confirm that I can keep the gas appliances (generator and tankless water heater) five feat from the door.

Our piles went in last week and the footers will be poured next week. This is a two story house, with just garage space on the ground level. We were flooded during the recent hurricanes and decided to tear our single story block home down and rebuild an elevated house.

I will ask my builder if there is anything structurally prohibiting it. I think it is a great solution.

Thank you for your time and for thinking out of the box.

-Sarah

Hi,

In order to have a larger vanity, what do you think about this layout? I would take some amount (?) from the pantry.

"I'm still trying to figure out how a bedroom gets its own pantry!"

Eating disorder. Don't ask me how I know.

Hence, the guest bathroom can take some space from the official pantry, since we have the guest bedroom pantry!

Only have guests that are good cooks.

I have a "pool" bathroom just like the one PPF drew. The only issue is when we have young kids visiting and they make a last minute dash to the bathroom ... soaking wet. We have hardwood in the hallway and tile in the bathroom. When kids visit I place a large towel on the floor in front of both doors and a towel on the bathroom floor. Also I check often to dry any puddles in the bathroom. So there can be good reason for having a direct door from the outside into the bathroom, if you have lots of guests who won't dry off first, before going into the house.

Hi Chispa,

You bring up a good point that I should be aware of water in that hallway when anyone comes in. Thank you for your input on my various discussions!

"This will be my husband's bathroom. He will shower, primarily, in the outdoor shower under the deck (labeled "atrium") and walk up the stairs to "his" bathroom. We will have tile throughout the entire house. Other than him, I don't anticipate anyone else coming in wet."

That sounds VERY odd. Even if there is some compelling reason for your husband to shower outside. It sounds like there is a lack of efficient spatial relationships.

I had a client that shared with me, at a meeting on their current deck, that their neighbor take showers outside. Right on cue out comes the neighbor and she takes a shower in her regular fashion. Maybe if there was some sort of privacy screen it would not be so odd.

Mark my next door neighbor had her outside shower directly under our second story bedroom window.

Good morning,
Here is the outdoor downstairs shower location.

I am sorry but what the heck is the bedroom access to the pantry ????? Bathrooms have a toilet that is a fact does this mean something worth doing a redo of a plumbing run IMO no .

I have the same guest bath layout that you show in your revision. It’s the smallest bathroom in the house but it is perfect. Tidy, functional and easy to manage. That would be my vote. Careful on the changes if the plumbing drains are done as this would be a change that requires digging
Is perfect

Thank you, Patricia.

There is a hall closet on the wall opposite bedroom #2; perhaps, that is what you are seeing? We just broke ground last week, so I think we can change the bathroom layout. I will check with our builder.

Thank you, Jani. I appreciate your input and first-hand knowledge of the layout.

We just broke ground last week, so there are no plumbing lines yet. I will talk with our builder this week to see if he can make the layout change. Thanks again!

Are people purposefully not noticing the arrow that shows the pantry ? I’m confused wut people suggest the bedroom has a pantry when it’s clearly related to the kitchen which is right above it.

Thank you, WestCoast!
That is it exactly.

Well, my mother-in-law has a closet in the downstairs full bathroom, which is next to the kitchen, and uses that closet as a pantry! Small cape built in 1968, so no other pantry space. Not an ideal place to store things, but you do the best you can with what you have available!

With a new build your budget is the limit. Unless I am missing something, the routine your husband has to endure to take a shower tells me the designer of your home failed you. Nobody should have to endure such Rube Goldberg torture in the experience of the design of their home. Do not use the same designer in the next house you build.

I think the pantry is the room above the label (and the hall is just the hall). The pantry area looks like there were too many notes in there and the label got moved

Mark, it would appear to be the husband’s choice, and possibly similar to the recent practice, pre-hurricane.

Good morning, bpath.

You are exactly correct. Our new elevated house will have almost the same footprint as our old single story house. My husband likes to take his showers outside on that side of the house, since he can have his own bathroom.

Is the bathroom primarily for the guest room? If so, why not move the door the the bathroom to the bedroom wall and make the bath ensuite?

Good morning, Norwood.

I had not thought of that, but it appears that would be an easy change. Thank you for the idea!

I would want it to be easy to check on the outside door easily at bedtime or when leaving the house, so I preferred ppf’s drawing. And, there are two guest bedrooms, so it can’t be ensuite for one, what will the other guest(s) use?

Thanks, bpath. I agree, the guest bathroom will be shared by both bedrooms.

That is a good point about visibility to the door. ppf had a great plan!

Is the bathroom in question being shared by both guests and your husband?

Yes, in theory. We do not have children or grandchildren and not a lot of overnight guests. The majority of the time, the bathroom will be used just by my husband.

I had asked last thread about this bathroom and how it's layout would be beneficial for it's use. The shower at ground level is just for washing off sand/salt/chlorine when staying outside, right? What about, say, when a guest is finished outside and changing for dinner? Or just needs the bathroom without trouncing into the hall or through a bedroom? Your Powder Room on the other side of house is strictly for inside use.

In PPF's solution, will you be able to fit a generator transfer switch, main meter, tankless water heater, hose bib + reel on the wall remaining with their clearances in that crux of the deck?

Hi,
This shower will be used strictly by my husband, on a daily basis. He likes to shower outdoors. He will shower and then walk up the steps to “his” bathroom.
You are right about clearances. I need three feet for the tankless water heater and five feet for the generator. I am playing around with that now.
Thanks!

Is it possible to hang one of these out the side of the master bathroom for husband to shower in?

Showering outdoors is one of the greatest pleasures in life. I want to add it to my list of things to make sure I do in the next year.

What do you think about moving the bedroom door down directly from the bathroom door? Or is that too many doors?

Love the glass enclosure! It could serve as a penalty box, too!

Hi rockybird,

Let me look at repositioning the doors. I will play around with it.

Thank you!