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We recently got new cabinets & countertops but need ideas on lighting. We had one fluorescent fixture in the center prior but my husband would like recessed (on areas marked on ceiling, 6 total). He purchased the LED wafer lights but the light quality is terrible. We have GU10 type lights in our vent hood that give off almost a sparkly light, and I'd like that in the rest of the kitchen as well. Do they make recessed lights with bulbs that will give that type of light? (Not looking for the wafer all in ones lights, but maybe a recessed with changeable bulb). Also open to any other ideas for lighting in this area. There is a chandelier type light over our dining table right outside the kitchen that provides some light.

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    Lighting can be thought of as different layers. Task , ambient and decorative. Task is recommended to be 450 lumens/70-80 footcandles at the counter. Placed usually 3-6 inches in from the edge of the counter work zone to avoid you shadowing what you're cutting. Two offset can work. Undercabinet led tape lights can contribute. Leds come in different colors of white from yellow warm 2700K to 5000K blue white sharp daylight. And they have a CRI value showing color rendering accuracy, usually best above 90.

    Liz C thanked dan1888
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    To meet your goals you would need to purchase remodel housings with a gimbal trim. The gimbals will allow the angle to not parallel the cathedral ceiling planes, but be focused perpendicular to the counter. Your locations look to be adequate for 4" fixtures. The detailing of those fixtures with respect to insulation in your roof plane should be considered.

    Not sure what "sparkly" means, but you can choose 'bulbs' with different color temperature, lens opacity, and LED diode style.

    You could improve further with undercabinet lighting if you are up for that commitment.

    Liz C thanked 3onthetree
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    The wafer lights are usually adjustable. Have you checked to see if yours are? That could make a difference.


    Sometimes that's all you have room for.




    Liz C thanked BeverlyFLADeziner
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    @Lyn Nielson the kitchen itself is 8ft wide by 15ft long, not including the dining area. The ceiling at the peak is 10.5 feet, and 8ft at the lowest. I was considering a light above the sink to mirror the light from the vent hood. Not a huge fan of under cabinet lights, but maybe I have only seen cheap ones. The light quality from them seems more fluorescent and I'm trying to avoid that. Looking at jewel or faceted type bulbs if that makes sense, something not glaring to the eye as many LED's seem to be. It is DIY, my husband does home remodeling for a living, we just have different ideas of acceptable lighting. 😁 I'll attach a few more pictures of the room and the bulb from the vent hood.










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    @3onthetree Thanks! Yes, I have been looking for the recessed remodel lights with gimble trim, do you have a good source to purchase them from? Also I wasn't sure if the gimble provides more of a spot light or if they can also provide wider beam of light? I think what I was trying to convey by sparkly was a more faceted type bulb thats not glaring to the eyes as many LED's seem be.

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    it's an interesting layout, for sure.

    I would do 12 recessed units, six on each side of the peak. 24 inches from the wall or 12" off the fronts of the cabinets = just over the edge of the countertop at 24"

    1 foot away from the peak and then at 3' spacing to the back wall.

    you need the most light in the center of the peak/room/kitchen.

    Put them on a different switch so you can shut off the kitchen lights and leave the dining light on while at the table, or everything on.

    it wouldn't hurt to put recessed cans in your dining room, so you light up the space near the windows.

    What are you doing about the receptacle that you have in the center?

    Your dining room fixture is too high. the bottom of the fixture should be centered on the table 30" off the table... if you can't center it, then swag it so you can.https://www.cansandfans.com/recessed-lighting/sloped-ceiling-lights-1/

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    [This is incorrect. I didn't realize the ceiling is sloped.]

    One solution:

    If lights are properly spaced, I don't see a reason for gimble trim.

    Liz C thanked wdccruise
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    @BeverlyFLADeziner Thank you, they are adjustable, I had it on the 3000k setting, but didn't think to

    to adjust the lumens. They are commercial electric, maybe Juno is a better quality. These just look frosted and glaring.

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    @Lyn Nielson thank you for that info and link! He was just going remove that center fixture if we decide not to use it and use the wires for the recessed. Yeah the layout is not ideal in this house, they originally had a closet with the washer/dryer in the kitchen. We moved the washer/dryer to the garage and used the closet as a pantry but decided to take out the closet and do pantry cabinets when we remodeled. I'll attach some before pictures.



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    @wdccruise thank you! Those look like a really good option. How many of the 4inch would you say would offer adequate light for our kitchen?

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    Sloped ceilings will require sloped-ceiling fixtures:

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    Liz C thanked wdccruise
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    He's a great explainer but one cannot install those kind of lights in a sloped ceiling and wafer lights should be avoided.