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Add wall oven or range instead?

23 days ago

Need some outside opinion on this because I cannot decide and feel like I'm losing my marbles. We're re-doing the whole kitchen and planning to switch to a single oven from the double shown in the picture to reclaim some counter space. The microwave will go away and be replaced by an under-counter convection microwave in the island that will serve as our second oven for the 2 days a year that we need that.


My dilemna is, I cannot decide between simply buying a single wall oven for under the counter, or replacing my rangetop with a stove. The rangetop is a 5-year-old Thermador and I love it. On the one hand, a stove would make the whole design look more tidy and well thought out. On the other hand, it's thousands more dollars to do the stove when all is said and done and I'm not really in love with a lot of the choices out there aesthetically.


What would you do? Am I not thinking of something? Thanks in advance for any help.


Comments (13)

  • 23 days ago

    What convection microwave are you looking at? Hopefully not the Sharp MW drawer model. Works great as a MW drawer, but is way under powered as a convection oven and close to useless for that. Tried it once and have never used it again. Also had service check it out and they said it was under powered for that function and just the way it worked.

    You need a 220V unit for it to function well as an oven.

    I dislike the 36" oven in my Induction range. Takes too long to heat up and it too big for everyday cooking. My second oven is a 24" Miele CSO (convection steam oven) XXL, which is a great appliance.

  • PRO
    23 days ago

    Wall ovens cost a ton of $$$$ for really not much purpose if you only need one oven IMO get range and make sure it is vented properly you gain lots of counter space too. You can buy an all gas range for less than a wall oven in many cases The kitchen needs many changes just from the pics I see so while you are at it why not get some real pro help here with layout too. Applaince choices are the first step I do with clients before we even start on the kitchen design. You already using 220 for the ovens so go all gas range and free that up for something else . An under counter oven can work but then you lose storage . Post a to scale floor plan here show every window , doorways where those lead and every measurement clearly marked . Post here in jpeg in a comment There are many KDs on this site to give you free help. You could evenn do a double oven gas range

  • 23 days ago

    We love having our large range with oven as well as one wall oven and microwave above the wall oven. It has worked far better than I ever thought it could.

  • 23 days ago

    you are redoing the whole kitchen,

    if you show photos of the whole kitchen their may be a better location/suggestions.

    What all is changing? Is the range top on an outside wall?

  • 23 days ago

    I don't understand how changing to one wall oven is going to yield more counter space if you keep the single oven at the same height. I must be missing something.



  • 23 days ago

    Well, if you use your range top and an oven, then why not buy a full stove? It leaves you with the option of more counter space. Do you need or use two ovens? How big is your family? That can make a difference in what you decide to do. Do
    you have any limitations that keep you from using a stove oven?

    There were 9 in my family growing up, my mom cooked everything from daily meals to Thanksgiving dinners with relatives
    using one stove. I don’t know how, but she did. Even when my parents moved to a larger home, at Christmas there would be

    twenty + of us with extended families and she still had only one stove and probably a microwave by then. She was

    something else!!

    debra

  • 20 days ago

    If you add "Kitchens" to the Forums list in your starting post, you will get more responses. While Kitchens is far less busy than it was under GardenWeb, it does still have more traffic than Appliances and similar Forums. (Use the "edit" button to add Kitchens.)

  • 20 days ago
    last modified: 20 days ago

    Two cautions about under counter ovens & MWs, which I assume you are planning to get more counterspace.

    • Wall ovens mounted under the counter are much lower/closer to the floor than the oven in a range. We looked at them at one time and immediately nixed the idea when we saw how low they are to the floor.


    • MWs, unless they are drawers. are difficult to use when under the counter. Controls on non-drawer MWs are designed for someone standing in front of them at waist to eye level, not below the waist or above the eyes. You will need to bend over when trying to use the controls and when putting food in or taking it out. Be careful with hot food when removing it or reaching blindly into a below the counter MW after cooking. Personally, I think non-drawer MWs should be no lower than your waist or above your chest for best & safest use.


    My recommendation? Post your layout on the Kitchens Forum and let us see what we can do to fix your lack of counterspace issue and any other issues with the layout. See the following thread in the "New to Kitchens? Read Me First!" thread. The Featured Answer focuses on what's needed when asking for layout (or functionality) help.

  • 20 days ago

    Assuming you don't often need a second oven, would a larger toaster oven only brought out when needed work as a second oven?

  • 20 days ago

    "I cannot decide between simply buying a single wall oven for under the counter, or replacing my rangetop with a stove."

    Note that wall ovens mounted under a counter are very low to the floor. They also require their own electrical circuit and a cabinet which a range doesn't. All new, range$ <= cooktop$ + wall oven$ + cabinet$.


    "...to reclaim some counter space."

    Make sure that you understand whether the convection-microwave can actually be mounted undercounter. For example, the 240-volt (more powerful) Cafe CSB923P2VS1 cannot be mounted undercounter but its 120-volt sibling, the Cafe CSB913P2VS1 can. But the lower-powered unit may be satisfactory for the occasional use you're expecting. The microwave power of both units is the same.

  • PRO
    20 days ago
    last modified: 20 days ago

    We know three things. What we see in the picture, and that you're "redoing" a kitchen and you have a range top you love.

    Unless you were just sitting around, mulling things over, taking a poll......... a hundred people will tell you what they have in their own homes, what they prefer, and none of them are you or have exactly your kitchen.

    The way to great ideas, solutions, is more pictures, a scaled drawing of the kitchen to the inch.

    Like this below......every single dimension noted and where openings lead. ....including if there is an island .



    "Is there something I'm not thinking of"? That very well could BE! But nobody here will know without the full context. You're in the kitchen and we are not.

    If "redoing" means everything is same but you change cabinets and counter finishes? We don't know if that's a great idea or not and you may be surprised to find out.....maybe not so much, or maybe it's perfect. We're in the information vacuum.

    By the way? A Breville counter top oven for the "two days a year you need that" is a great option. Is this the home you moved into five years ago, needing the chrome hardware lever style handle? : )

  • PRO
    20 days ago

    How much do you currently use your ovens? If not much would suggest a range. As you say, it will give you a tidier appearance and sill save space.

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