You need that many exterior lights to get a COO? Can't you just put a few cheap temporary lights at the main doors and cap the rest of the electrical boxes for now?

We need lights over all entrances. Those at the front don't count. (There are pots under the porch roof.) But might as well get them all done at once. Plus the electrician doesn't appreciate less than a day of work for his guys.

I like the explosion proof fixtures; it makes it look like you live dangerously.

(not professional advice)

Living dangerously. That's me!

Decrepit tugboat racing to Suez. (1923)

So traditional industrial flushmount is too much?

Not too much, "Appropriate". But that is for you to determine.

What's wrong with a simple cylinder / or square?

https://lightingnewyork.com/product/lighting/outdoor-lighting/outdoor-wall-lights/wac-lighting-barrel-outdoor-wall-lighting-ws-w64905-bk/1713216.html

https://lightingnewyork.com/product/lighting/outdoor-lighting/outdoor-wall-lights/progress-5in-cyl-rnds-outdoor-wall-lighting-p560291-031-30/2423366.html

or even this budget friendly idea

https://lightingnewyork.com/product/lighting/outdoor-lighting/outdoor-wall-lights/progress-z-1010-led-outdoor-wall-lighting-p560029-031-30/998960.html

Or if silver works:

https://lightingnewyork.com/product/lighting/outdoor-lighting/outdoor-wall-lights/progress-cylinder-outdoor-wall-lighting-p5674-82-30k/592987.html

Do you NEED the wall pack or do you already have boxes to mount to?

Not sure of the placement of the sconces on the other build. Seems like there won't be a lot of light in front of the garage doors?

I can totally do this for your build - but for my own - still using temp love voltage!!!!

Sorry I don't like the fussy details on the barnlight proposed. I'd opt for a more simple design. All of these lights are 1/3 the cost of the fixture proposed.

All exterior lighting should follow dark sky principles:

Neither the industrial-building sconce nor the exposed-bulb light would not be appropriate as they either illuminate the wall or shine out into the yard. No light should shine upwards.

I like this Generation Lighting Matt Black Barn Light available in several sizes (though it may not be sufficiently modern). I'd equip it with this EcoSmart Universal Select 50/75-Watt Equivalent PAR20 Dimmable Adjustable Beam Angle LED Light Bulb with 6 CCT, set the color temperature to 2700K (preferred) or 3000K (max) and adjust the beam angle to minimize illumination of the wall.

We could only decide on the lights needed for the Occupancy Permit: two for each set of the rear sliding doors and one over the basement walkout.

I will post pics when they arrive.

Basically, black rectangles 11" high with 10 watt LED. I believe they also shine upwards on the house wall. My designer is not likely conversant with Dark Sky Principles.

Since we are in a high break-in, home invasion area, night lighting is essential.

In the past, lighting certainly hasn't impacted the beloved coyote community: In daylight, they casually snoozed under the Bobcats we had parked during construction. Confronted, they just back off, coolly judging how far I can throw a steel bar. Foxes, owls and red hawks do their welcome best to cull the rat population.

?Bobcat or Bobcat?

I believe they also shine upwards on the house wall. My designer is not likely conversant with Dark Sky Principles.

Clearly not. Exterior lights should never shine upwards or needlessly illuminate walls.

"Since we are in a high break-in, home invasion area, night lighting is essential."

The solution is for lights that are triggered by motion sensors which can scare off intruders. Lighting up the neighborhood isn't the solution and can actually aid criminals by helping them navigate the property.

"In the past, lighting certainly hasn't impacted the beloved coyote community"

"Does artificial light affect coyote behavior?

"Excessive artificial light can disrupt coyote behavior, including their hunting patterns and sleep cycles. It can also make them less wary of humans, increasing the risk of conflicts." -- Can coyotes see you in the dark?

Solution: Follow Dark Sky Principles: see the stars, avoid annoying your neighbors, and help the coyotes.

I like the motion sensor idea. At least, for the rest of the lights. A watt saved is a watt earned.

?Bobcat or Bobcat?

Coyote amongst the Bobcats

It is hard to tell by the picture but that may be a red fox.

Very interesting, wdcruise. I wish more homeowners would follow the dark sky principles. Especially during this holiday season, the lighting has gotten out of control.

I was particularly intrigued by the suggestion to use motion sensors to scare intruders--that makes so much sense.

Sensors to activate lights can also turn on the cameras.

Coyote indeed. I vas dere Charlie.

Our cameras run continuously. Though if there's a break-in all you'll ever get are pics of hunched over figures in black from hoodies to runners.

If you have coyotes, is it too late to change the fixture order?

Back-door lights in place. (Switched LEDs)

For the front, walkup and garage side, we'll look for enclosed LEDs only shining down.

Motion activation is intriguing. But I recall m. a. lights we installed on another house that never worked as expected. (The designer, who wanted us to wash the front walls with uplighting, will not be happy.)

just_janni: "While washing...is really bad for light pollution.

"...SEEING all the stars - it's a whole different world out there at night"

My city has replaced its streetlights with LED ones that are more dark-sky friendly. The sky is noticeably darker but few stars are visible and only as small dots.

"The sky is noticeably darker but few stars are visible and only as small dots."

Wait a minute, all (but one) stars are small dots.

Mark Bischak, Architect: "Wait a minute, all (but one) stars are small dots."

Time to visit a Dark Sky Place.

Bryce Canyon National Park

Gilbert Stanley Underwood designed a very nice lodge there.

Mark Bischak, Architect: "Gilbert Stanley Underwood designed a very nice lodge there."

Mr. Underwood, who died in 1961, probably knew little about light pollution or he wouldn't have used those lights which needlessly illuminate the stone walls and surrounding areas. But at least they don't shine upwards and somebody put yellow bulbs in them which reduces blue light.

The light fixture is needed so those navigating the walkway in the evening or night do not trip and hurt themselves. It is there for safety purposes. It is attached to the wall not to purposely illuminating the wall but to purposely illuminate the walkway. Nobody in 1925 gave a rat's ass about light pollution; it is a contemporary term created to give something for people to worry about that have nothing better to do.

Mark Bischak, Architect: "Nobody in 1925 gave a rat's ass about light pollution; it is a contemporary term created to give something for people to worry about that have nothing better to do."

I sense anger!

"when you know better, you do better" - Maya Angelou