I grew up in two houses with wood Pella casements and rollascreens. The house I knew the longest is 55 years old and the screens still worked perfectly when it was sold a couple of years ago. Why aren’t they standard?! However, the local fellow from a glass company, not a window supplier, said Pella is not the same as it was.

Roller screens make so much sense. They stay clean, the window sill stays clean, they are in place or away instantly.

I agree 100% I don’t understand why they’re not a standard option

Stay away from anything Pella (not just screens) and Lincoln (called leaky Lincolns in the industry). Both brands are complete non-starters in my opinion in any type window.

I have a push out Weathershield with a roll down screen. I got a pushout window because I wanted it to be egress and/or be able to get things up to the second floor.

The roll down screen does not work that well, not like the old Pella roll screens.

But in general roll screens work better with crank out casements, because you aren't putting them up and down to open and close the windows.

Can you still get push-out casements in the US? I have seen only crank-out.

millworkman, I asked my glass guy about current Pella after seeing so many criticisms of it here. It used to be so well-regarded, he agreed but he said he would never get it himself nor recommend it. That’s too bad, I wonder what happened?

Yes, push-out casements are still available from what I know. Custom but still available.

Customer service, quality control and fit & finish all are poor at best. From my knowledge has been since the 1980's.

If the screen is located on the outside of the push-out casement, the quality control and fit & finish improve.

Just thoought I would throw out a little humor there; for those of you that were wondering.

Thanks, Mark, I was starting to wonder about you.

Starting??

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I have Marvin Ultimate push out casements with vertical hidden/roll screen. We installed them when we built in 2021. We did them in the front of the house only, as they are a lot more expensive. Our house has angled garage "wings", so you can't see the front and sides of the house at the same time. The rest of the house has matching Elevate casements.

We use AC most of the year in FL, but if we needed to have cross-ventilation, I didn't want visible screens on the front of the house. Overall they work well, but sometimes you have to roll them in/out a couple of times to get the screen to run perfectly smooth inside the top "track".

We couldn't get them with the hidden/roll screens in our front facing dining room, because those windows were too tall/large, but we figured we had enough of them in the other front facing rooms to get some cross-ventilation when necessary (the few weeks a year, during winter, when we have no humidity).

We have the interior mounted screens for all the other casements, but never installed them. Having the roll screens on those front windows gives us enough cross-ventilation when needed. I hate the look of the inside mounted casement screens!

Chispa, are saying the screens roll from one side to another, instead of up and down?

Yes!

Marvin website doesn't really show anything! I saw them at the dealer showroom before buying.

Just looked for a video and this one shows how to repair the Marvin retractable window screen on a push-out casement, but if you go to the end you can see it fully operational.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB_u15S05Ig

I’m currently building a home, using Marvin windows - I don't believe they offer the integrated screens as an option anymore - not sure why they no longer offer the option.

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Thanks, all good info. I too don't see an integrated, retractable screen option on existing Marvin windows.

Thoughts? Experiences with Kolbe?

You also have the option of going with aftermarket solutions.

Phantom Screens company has been around for a long time. https://www.phantomscreens.com/

Looked at phantom but don't like the bulk of adding that to a window.

The Marvin retractable screens also add some bulk, not at the top, but on the side, where the "cassette" is mounted. They all add some bulk somewhere, but most people will not even notice they are there ... you are just focusing on that one detail of the window and not thinking about how the overall view out the windows will be when you are in the room.

I wish double-hung windows had retractable screens. Think of it: you pull the top down, and a screen unrolls with it. Or put the bottom up, and likewise.

Pella does and possibly a few others, but I read so many complaints on Pella in general, not sure I want to risk trying them. Windows are so ridiculously expensive and not near as fun as custom cabinets.