This is the flavor I’m going for:

that's a 30" stove. super narrow. are you sure you can't go up to a 36?? (and those upper cabs say 15", which means your inside will be about 13" or so. pretty much useless unless it's for tea or vitamins!)

you have the space to the right. I'd reconsider this layout. seriously.

if we could see the actual kitchen, it would add some context.

look at the added pics I put in my comment. they redid theirs kitchen w/the type of cabs you want near the stove. see if you like it

also, is the farmhouse style what you're doing?

the inset cabinet doors?

farmhouse style stove and sink?

oh wait, I found your other post. why another one?

what cabinets are you getting?

you have a ton of space. why on earth are you doing a 30" stove and 15" cabinets??
(make sure you get a fridge surround for a neater appearance)

I would do a stove top and a wall oven.

I would get more drawers on the base cabinets.

I'd put your plate rack over to the left of the fridge behind the sink.

who did you layout for you??

A mix of farmhouse & french country, but toned down to be a little more transitional. Just undermounted sink. Using current 30” stove. Undecided on style of good. I have a whole thread on here that shows my actual kitchen photos. I’ll try to link it here!

You found it!!

You say you are getting a 36” range but your drawings only show a 30.

15” was a typo! Good thing we caught it! They are supposed to be 18”

see my comment above. can you address those issues?

(are you sure your current stove is 30" ????

and why would you go w/narrower cabs above the stove? what's there currently? 24" ? why are you shrinking everything?

I don't get your new layout.

what's happening on the other side? you only show the stove area.

Thanks for the input & also all the photo examples! I love the look of the open side cupboards, but we want something a little less messy looking…just a simple plate rack & a niche for a few decor items.

Open to tweaks and suggestions at this point…but not a full re-do. ($$$)

ok, so you want this,

to look like this:

This is a 36" stove^

however, these measurements don't seem to jive.

I would NEVER do a 30" stove in your size kitchen. it will look ridiculous.

make the plate rack smaller and increase your upper cabinets. the 15" or the 18" too narrow.

I'm guessing your soffit is going?

please recheck your measurements and do some math with the stove and all of the cabinets surrounding it.

Beth H. Yes, it is 30”. I am frustrated with the smaller cabinets as well! We currently have 24”. It’s a matter of adding a niche. If we kept the same width of cabinets, The niche would have to be either 24” or 48”. Too small or too big!

I’m open to other ideas for adding visual interest left of the range hood!

Ummm.,,I mean RIGHT of the hood!

Is there any chance you can pause and make changes? The siblings island as is, the shape of the island, i would want to change this if I could…

This is the flavor I’m going for: West Coast Hopeful : Thanks for responding. We are probably going to round off the the island countertop!

Beth H. Yes! the soffit is going & the cabinets are going to be extended!

Beth H. How large of a range hood would you put with a 36” stove?

My husband & I have been over and over the math and all the possibilities with different widths of cabinetry. We could go with wider cabinets ONLY if we ditch the niche idea and/or the hood.

How much would it cost to move a stove?

42" hood at least with the 36" range. I'm not understanding why you can't move the range so it is more centred along that wall allowing you to have nice wide drawers on either side for pots and pans?

Here, I’ve recreated the placement out of cardboard. Of course, there will be a substantial moulding in top! Is it really that horrendous??

I have a much smaller area ( for the stove) than you do. I have a 36" stove top.

when I redid my kitchen I moved the micro and had a custom vent hood made. the insert is about 34-35" w/the overall width of the vent being about 36" (the insert fits into the underside of the custom vent hood). the vent should cover the stove area. ( you can see the insert in the underside)

Let me give you some context on size w/mine.

so the stove top is 36", (the oven is standard)

the hood measured on the wood portion, is 37" and the depth of the hood is 21.5"

the upper cab to the left of the hood is 15". (inside usage is 13 1/2")

plates don't fit. i use it for vitamins, tea bags, cold medications, and smaller junk stuff. lol

the upper cabs to the right are a double 22". so, 44"

You have way more room than I do, so please, rethink the stove size.

I think your 18" cab on either side will be fine, depending upon what you want to store in them.

where are you moving your microwave?

I'd put it below next to your sink somewhere, like the far right.

check into the GE profile 5.0 cu in model. I researched at least 30 of them. this was the best one for all around clearance. make sure to read the specs for 'INSIDE" when you're looking at inset microwaves. I did mine under the wall oven and had just enough clearance. You have to get the trim kit too.

here's an angled island similar to yours. see how they did it?

if you must keep that island, I'd put the micro here. behind the sink in that open area think about a pantry (if you don't have one.

or, you can utilize this wasted space area off to the left where that wood crate is.

are you doing any pantry cabs?

have you thought about doing a stove top and a wall mount oven? you seem to have the room for it.

Go bigger w/the 36" ! trust me

Some option to go with 30+27+30 for top cabinets or with equal sizes 30+30+30 managing with gaps.

Maybe I missed it but is there a reason the range isnt being centered on that wall? maybe because of the shape of your island you wouldnt be able to open the door? I know I recomemnded squaring off your island and this was one of the reasons. You are spending a lot for a renovation and keeping an island shape that gravely dates your kitchen. Why? You upper cabinet layout would be much better if the range was centered.

100% agree DIS. The angled island being kept is shocking

Having read through this post the math doesnt seem to be mathing. What am I missing? You have a large kitchen yet you appear to me getting less out of it with this reno than you had before.

Here is what I would do if I walked into your space and you asked me for a transitional french county kitchen that was timeless. Excuse the errors in the rendering but I could not make the bump out bay on your sitting area look right. Because it does bump out that seating area would be further to the right. I recall you saying in your other post that you do not want to use that as an eating area and you enjoy watching tv there. With that in mind i put a pop up TV cabinet there so when you arent watching tv you can lower it and not obstruct the windows. Cheers!

also you could have two sides of seating at the island with additional counter stools facing the range and sink to really maximize that seating. It appears you have the space.

I love what Design Interior rendered for you!

If you're going through the expense of new cabinets and countertops, please rethink your layout! there's absolutely no reason to keep the 1995 island shape. none.

(and what a diff some drapes and a rug do for the sitting area!!)

this is an amazing redo of your space. even if you want to change out the backsplash or the wood on the island, the layout itself is beautiful.

Centering the stove in the middle instead of off to the left makes the entire room look better. Notice your plate rack above the built in microwave! you could make a little coffee bar over there if you like.

or maybe you want to do an island w/more contrast.

this kitchen is basically black and white (I believe that stove is a 30" with a 30" vent hood. it looks narrow which is why I suggested doing a 36" stove and hood vent

but the larger island would be nice and work well in your space.

Here's another angled island like yours. Before and After.

don't your think doing a nicer island when they had the chance would have looked better? I do.

similar to what Design made up for you:

bad photo shop, but you get the idea. love the pendants too

If you go to my projects page and look at the project titled Cameron Pond we redid their kitchen which originally had an island like yours. The before are afters are really proof that the oddly shaped islands are just not doing anything for a space. My only advice is to kee the island size the size of a slab or a jumbo slab or smaller so you do not need any seams on your island.

Here is a link to it as well

https://www.instagram.com/p/DAKCVCZPH1o/?igsh=aDd0bzlldnhhMmNk

The seating on the right side of the DIS island will impede flow. Eliminate a seating overhang on that side and move any seating over to the side facing the viewer.

The range or cooktop needs to be slide-in. Freestanding is for nothing in this size space. Induction. The new Miele 8000 series full surface models are the best technology. Coming in May and not yet on their site. They were shown at the Kitchen & Bath Show in February. Miele has had versions in Europe for 5 years. A hood is 6" wider than the cooktop or range. 36" or wider to 48" base drawer cabinets wherever they fit. Especially around a range or cooktop. Your frig currently is standard and it needs to be counter depth or integrated. To fit everything into a budget my choice would be IKEA cabinets paired with much better appliances from Miele and SubZero for the frig. Sometimes it's worthwhile to reconfigure the budget or postpone the project to get a substantially better result.

RE your island shape..do consider an L configuration. the sink ends up on one side of the L which is preferable to the center spot for the sink . these older style diagonal cut islands usually have the raised bar height for the seated individuals which you obviously dont want but the sink now looks odd in the middle.

L shape..sink off to the side

L-Shaped Island · More Info

So many great ideas but it seems you're trying to stay within a defined budget. Is the goal of the project to replace the cabinets, add the plate niche and stylish vent hood with no other changes?

To those asking about the odd shaped island - I remember her original post and the reason for keeping the shape has to do with not wanting to redo the laminate floor which runs throughout the whole level. If it were me I’d be redoing the floors as part of the kitchen project - even if it meant waiting and saving for it $

And I also agree that the 30” range looks out of proportion to the overall wall / size of kitchen

Good advice already -

if it were me and I wanted more interest on the range wall, I‘d DIY glass cab doors along that wall (easy to do with current doors) and I’d paint the walls to match the cabs to downplay the soffit - then I’d save my pennies for a full blown reno, you have a huge space and could/should have a fabulous kitchen ✨

Personally, I only like doors to OPEN AWAY FROM THE RANGE HOOD. So I would do the plate rack more to the left. Otherwise, you'll need to be careful when opening the door on the right side of your hood. Full overlay and frameless cabinets, even more so. Inset or partial overlay isn't too bad.

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If you go IKEA you will be going frameless, the only option. Vedhamn European Oak is the wood option if you're willing to replace the floor to match in engineered plank.

What brand of cabinets are you getting? I don't know why you would move to Ikea unless there was no other way. If you are absolutely not moving the range to center on that wall then that wall should not have the plate rack. Too much visual clutter with the hood the chopped up cabinet sizes and then a plate rack. Move the plate rack to the other wall on center if its a dream you can't give up. You can get a microwave drawer for $1200-1500. Reconfigure and have that installed in the lower cabinet below plate rack. Drawer below it and drawers on each side of it. The island well........I have shared my opinion on that.

I redid my kitchen with a circus train plate cabinet and a diagonal island , but that was in 1995

Thank you all for your helpful input! Here are the ideas I have gleaned from y’all so far:
1-) I need to re-think EVERYTHING!
2-) Most of my choices are outdated
3-) Five 18” cabinets in a row, that are 42” tall, will look super weird!
4-) I CAN move the stove & It will cost me $0!!!
5-) Plate racks should not be placed right next to the stove.
6-) People have STRONG opinions as well as helpful suggestions. I cannot please all of you…or even any one of you! Therefore, in the end, I need to please myself (and my husband), & stick to the budget. Until then, I would LOVE continued feedback from all of you geniuses! Thanks SO MUCH!!!

Design Interior South, We are going with Waypoint. It’s not Shaker, but a recessed panel with a hint of embellishment. Vanilla. (Not Ikea…lol.)

Will be shifting the stove slightly to the right, surrounded by all 21”s. Do you think the 4 adjacent cabinets in a row need some visual interest? Or might a stand-out feature on the right create the “choppy effect” you mentioned?
What are your thought? Visual examples, please, if you are able to help me that way! Thanks for the guidance!

Love your outlook and attitude! Can you explain a little more about this idea: 4-) I CAN move the stove & It will cost me $0!!! IMO, yes, you CAN move a stove, but depending on electrical and vent hood needs at the new location, it can go from a little to a lot of $

"Design Interior South, We are going with Waypoint. It’s not Shaker, but a recessed panel with a hint of embellishment. Vanilla. (Not Ikea…lol.)"

Sorry I was reading other comment sthat kept bringing up Ikea cabinets & was wondering why Ikea kept getting mentioned.

"I CAN move the stove & It will cost me $0!!!"

IDK who said that but nothing costs zero. Is it worth it to allocate money for centering the range? ABSOLUTELY!

"Yes, I’ve banished the plate rack!"

Example the money you were spending for a plate rack would be better spent moving the range on center.

"Five 18” cabinets in a row, that are 42” tall, will look super weird!"

If you centered the range you wouldn't have this concern.

" those asking about the odd shaped island - I remember her original post and the reason for keeping the shape has to do with not wanting to redo the laminate floor which runs throughout the whole level. "

The actual cabinet imprint can be incorporated into a large square island. She has a massive overhang on the existing island. I explained this in her original post and showed her an actual kitchen under construction I was doing where we made the change with little to no need for flooring replacement. It can be done.

I hope you understand that we aren't trying to be "bullies" here ;-) . Every wrong decision has a consequence in design. Or my favorite saying in my line of work "misappropriation of a good idea" . The saying "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results "is in play here. Really you are not getting a new kitchen here you are just getting new cabinets and maybe that is all you really wanted to start with and there lies our confusion? The design you were given reflects this. You seem to be very unwilling to incorporate any of the key design points that a multitude of posters/designers here have given you that would greatly change the space for the better. I am not sure why. Budget? Stuck in your ways? Taking advice from hubby or other family members that don't like change because they are used to something the way it is and can't understand any other way? If that is the case I recommend sitting on it for a bit longer until you have the budget/mindset to really make the changes that will result in a kitchen that you won't want to change again for the next 20 years and one that will add value to your home. I say this in the nicest way possible and I hope my language here reflects that. Sometimes our excitement to move forward with something new that we have been dreaming about obscurs our ability to envision what the actual results will be. :-)

#6 on decor diva's list: Therefore, in the end, I need to please myself (and my husband), & stick to the budget.

Asking those who feel strongly about changing the island, What would the cost of that be? Elements I see needed to be costed out are: Additional cabinets, perhaps additional countertop cost, plumbing changes (is she on a slab or is it accessible), electrical changes, lighting changes in recessed lights and associated dry wall repairs and ceiling painting, possible new lighting fixtures, possible flooring touch up, others?

It might be in her ability to stick to the budget. Who knows? And of course regional pricing does impact everything.

Thoughts to help her decide?

My thoughts:

I do not see anything wrong with the shape of the current island. Whether it is on trend or not- it works in the space... and imo works better than other options that have been presented. I am aware that this is a matter of personal perspective and personal opinion; and I have mine- and the OP has hers... And I think her opinion actually trumps all others... since it is her home- and her money.

I am not attempting to downgrade any contributions that have been offered here. Any images that I use to demonstrate my point of view are just what I have available here, at hand.

So the idea is: From my perspective- the current angled island allows a much more open feel than this suggested option- in which the island just appears to be oversized for the space.

The existing angled island works much better, imo.

Angled islands enhances traffic flow and accessibility.

Keep it, especially because it is also covering that area of the floor and saving you money.

My one question is are you putting the dishwasher in the island too? (I may have missed that comment).

@Celery. Visualization, Rendering images...love. And I like she kept the plate rack. Adds interest, feels homey.

@decordiva, I've been following both of your threads. I haven't seen it asked but I was wondering what the distance is between the end of your island and the cabinets on the back wall where the stove is. I'm wondering if moving the stove is going to give you enough room to work comfortably at the stove without bumping the island.