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Quartzite doubts

12 years ago
We purchased a polished slab of mother of pearl quartzite for our kitchen counter. Having read many online warnings about "counterfeit" quartzite, we took home a sample to test. The top is shiny and finished and one side is newly cut and unfinished (see photos). The finished top, however, has spots that have lost their shine. It looks like some kind of sealant was applied that perhaps was compromised by our tests. This doesn't seem right.

I'm confused because it seems to pass some tests but fail others. We put lemon, lime juice, red wine and red wine vinegar on top and there was no staining or etching. But some of the liquids rolled off onto the plate so the quartzite sat in it overnight, and the red color was definitely absorbed into the unfinished side. I took a nail and was able to scratch the top, but I couldn't make any scratches in the side. Finally, I tried to scratch a glass bottle with the edge of the quartzite, and it passed that test with ease.

I don't know whether to be concerned about the side absorbing the red color. I am definitely concerned about my ability to scratch the top. I want to talk with the fabricator, but at this point I'm not even sure what questions to ask. Or should I take my questions directly to the source of the stone? Any advice?

Comments (14)

  • 12 years ago
    Thanks.
  • 12 years ago
    Awesome reply feeny, that was great information.
  • 12 years ago
    Thank so much, Feeny, for the best summary of a very confusing issue. I've just placed a hold on some Nuage slabs, and was told by the dealer that this is granite, same composition as granite, etc., etc. Some online research quickly led me to understand this is quartzite. Obviously even some dealers are still confused about it.

    I love the Nuage but am now concerned. The dealer says they have no samples to give me. Will check with fabricator next to see if they have any. Am anxious about using this without doing the testing you discussed. If I can't get a sample to test, what else can I do for reassurance that this is actually real quartzite?
  • 11 years ago

    We're very unhappy with our quartzite island top and are just glad that we didn't do all the counter tops in it. It etches and scratches easily. It is beautiful - or rather WAS beautiful - but it's definitely not durable. Thank goodness our contractor is backing us up on this and we will be able to replace it with something more durable. BUYER BEWARE is right.

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I know this is an older thread but having just had my pricey "hard as granite" taj mahal quartzite installed 3 weeks ago and seeing that the slightest graze of metal (and I mean slightest as in a my son's stapled homework sheet leaving a scratch from just being moved across it!) leaves silvery scratches-- I am gutted! Not one of the 12 stone centers I visited while looking for my countertop said anything about it being anything other than 'hard as granite'!

    I attempted to scratch the sample piece with glass, as many will tell you to do, just to be sure of its strength, and it passed with flying colors--

    Waiting to hear back from my fabricator...have no idea what is reasonable to expect or hope for. Had I known, I would have saved myself several thousands and gone with granite! ugh.

  • 11 years ago

    This topic is still as confusing to me as it was when I first posted. We are going on 2 years now with our quartzite countertop. Our slap came with resin on it and our fabricator sealed it, so I don't know how it's different from granite. It does have a few nicks and chips in it now, another thing I didn't expect to happen but I'm trying not to let it bother me. So now I'm wondering whether I need to get it sealed regularly like I would with granite. One of the reasons we chose quartzite was to avoid this. I too am questioning why we paid more for this material.

  • 11 years ago

    Dcangen12- it's tragic because it's only now that I am looking for threads with problems with quartzite that I see there a few that come up here on houzz within the last few months it seems...I will copy here a post from another thread I found on houzz that may explain why this is confusing/unregulated/bordering on criminal...

    I apologize I didn't copy the link for the source since I just sent this to my husband for him to read earlier today and can't find the thread i found it on.

    In a nutshell- one could say you don't really know what you are getting regardless of what they tell you...(and btw, I went to several high end, national stone distributors when I was shopping for my stone, nobody said anything like what you will read below)


    Once upon a time all stone sold as quartzite was actually quartzite. Gorgeous and durable, looked like marble...what could be better. Naturally, everyone wanted it, but supply from reputable and experienced suppliers was limited. So stone began to hit the market that was labelled quartzite, but maybe wasn't really "true". or "pure" quartzite. In fact, this new pseudo-quartzite had a lot of the problems that the true quartzite didn't. It was very porous and it etched when exposed to acids. So they began to coat the "quartzite" slabs with resin at the quarry. Made it look great, and at least temporarily prevented etching. Problem was, by filling the natural pores in the stone, the resin also prevented the sealant from being properly absorbed! So now this resined "quartzite" was hard to seal, and therefore prone to staining and then eventually etching as the resin wore off. I've even heard stories of thickly applied resin pealing off finished slabs!

    There are still gorgeous slabs of durable, bullet proof quartzite out there, but it's buyer beware. Members on this forum seem to have either found it indestructible or very porous and prone to etching.

    If it is etching, it isn't quartzite regardless of what the stone yard called If it is soft enough to scratch easily, it isn't quartzite. It sounds like you may have been sold a stone that is closer to marble., porous can be taken care of with sealing. Etching or scratching would be more of a concern - sealing won't change those. Quartzite shouldn't etch and it should take something about as hard as diamonds to scratch it. If you are interested in particular slabs, try getting a sample from the slabs to test. Put kitchen acids like lemon juice or vinegar on it for a few hours or over night. If you want to check for porosity, leave some red wine on it and see if stains. If something is very porous, just putting water on it will leave a water mark until the water evaporates. It means that the stone will need to be sealed.

  • 11 years ago
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    I also just saw a post from a kitchen designer here on Houzz who says her local stone dealers are now classifying quartzite as a kind of marble since there have been so many complaints, presumably. I could cry. :(

  • 11 years ago

    In 2013 we were convinced that we had discovered the next big thing and everyone would want quartzite in their kitchens in the future. Ha!

  • 11 years ago

    I look forward to being able to laugh along side with you, dcangen12- I'm still in the outrage phase-and in the "what do we do now?!" Phase! :)

    think I am going to start a new thread and see if any stone people speak up and offer some advice...

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    10 years ago

    I know this is a bit of an older thread, but I just wanted to add to it. The first picture is indeed a true quartzite. It's sometimes called perla or Taj Mahal. The thing to remember is, at the end of the day it is still a natural stone. No natural stone is completely scratch, etch, or stain proof. Quartzite is 20% denser than granite so it doesn't scratch or stain or etch as easily but when things are left on it for a long period of time or unfortunately scratched at with the right angle or force, accidents can and will happen. Sealing Will definetly help and you should do so once a year. (I tell my clients to use Bupoint Bullet Sealer). You can always ask your fabricator to come out and repolish a spot and have it re-sealed :). I hope this helps!

  • 9 years ago

    update: it's been over a year since the installment of my quartzite and I can say a few things now that the dust has settled!

    My quartzite is very hard...it does not nick or chip easily. We have one tiny nick on the ogee edge that is a weaker edge since it is so fine.

    We have yet to sustain any stains or etching. (Knock on wood!)

    The silvery scratches that I originally posted about are not scratches per se, but it seems cheaper/softer metals will ostensibly "rub off" on the quartzite because it's so hard. These silvery marks only seems to come off with a very fine grit sandpaper.

    We did get it sealed with the bullet proof sealer that Amala Raj Design recommends above and that helped wiping down the surface a little easier too...

    It should be noted that we went with a honed surface rather than polished. From what I have heard, people who have polished quartzite do not have this silvery metal problem that we have. So i would advise to go with polished.

    All in all, we are happy with its beauty. We are definitely more careful with it than I thought we would need to be but it is not the disappointment I initially feared it would be!

  • 9 years ago
    J-Stallone, I'm so happy things worked out for you! We are almost 3 years in and have a few nicks, but all in all it still looks great. I haven't put any sealer on it yet and it doesn't seem to need it, but I'm thinking about putting some on soon.

    I'd love to see a picture of your kitchen!