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Grafted Marechal Niel UPDATE

7 years ago

I took Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR's kind advice and contacted Burling Leong at Burlington Roses about the possibility of grafting Marechal Neil. She replied that she does have a stock plant that's "not a vigorous grower" (good ol' MN) and she thinks it does need to be budded. She's starting a waiting list, if anyone wants to get on it.

Colleen

Comments (18)

  • 7 years ago

    What root stock will it be grafted onto?

    steelrosez9sfbay thanked sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
  • 7 years ago
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    Dr. Huey, I presume. I'd prefer fortuniana, but don't feel entitled to be fussy.

  • 7 years ago

    Someone should ask Burling about the rootstock. I think she prefers using something other than Dr. Huey, quite often. Lisa

    steelrosez9sfbay thanked Lisa Adams
  • 7 years ago

    I wouldn't be surprised if Burling is still favoring 'Pink Clouds' for budding. You should ask.

    steelrosez9sfbay thanked User
  • 7 years ago

    This is a very encouraging development. I could use another grafted one, to compare to own root.

    steelrosez9sfbay thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 7 years ago
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    Paul in your opinion if she does use Pink Clouds for budding would that do well for growing in Texas? Just curious as I wouldn’t want to have something grafted that won’t do well in my climate. Thanks!

    steelrosez9sfbay thanked HU-472323481
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Pink Clouds is doing very well here. Its getting quite tall in all directions. Its more vigorous than my fortuniana plant is and I got them both as rooted starts at the same time.

    I would definitely try MN onPink Clouds.

    steelrosez9sfbay thanked sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
  • 7 years ago

    HU,

    'Pink Clouds' is a rootstock developed by Ralph Moore in Visalia, CA, where 9 months of the year tend to be excruciatingly hot. That rootstock seems to do well almost everywhere, but is especially suited to warmer climates. It was chosen because its easy to bud anything onto, and it tends to produce plants with superior vigor. I cannot imagine that it would be a poor choice.

    steelrosez9sfbay thanked User
  • 7 years ago

    Thank you for responding Paul, that’s good to know it’s suited for warm climates!


    Sultry I am glad to hear you have had success with it too since we probably have very similar climates.

    If Burling is able to bud it onto Pink Cloud count me in!

  • 7 years ago

    My Marechal Neil came from Peter Beales. I know that they mainly use laxa for the rootstock, so I presume that mine is grafted onto laxa. All I know for certain is that it took off as soon as it was planted in the autumn of 2007 and has never looked back.

    It already has loads of blooms on, but I have lost my camera so here is a picture from last April.

    Daisy


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  • 7 years ago

    Daisy, just unbelievable! That photo is two plants?

  • 7 years ago

    Lucky you, Daisy! That is the best specimen of 'Marechal Niel' I have ever seen. Kudos to you!

  • 7 years ago

    Daisy, your Marechal Niel is world famous!

  • 7 years ago

    P.S. I think Melissa was asking about whether this rose develops new basals for anyone. Daisy, does yours get young basals and renew itself, or does it just thrive on the large, old canes alone?


  • 7 years ago

    Yes Sheila, there is one plant each side of the arbour. The one on the right in the photo, faces north and has less low down growth.


    Thanks all. This Marechal Neil has always been vigorous. The growth is from the original canes. I don't remember much in the way of new basal growth.

    Daisy

    steelrosez9sfbay thanked daisyincrete Z10? 905feet/275 metres
  • 7 years ago

    Thank you Daisy for that detail. I do have special interest on what roses want to make new canes or just enlarge the plant from a single basal. I see your MN do have several basals each. They are just beautiful.

    steelrosez9sfbay thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 7 years ago

    Thank you Daisy. That is really interesting to know, and explains in part why this rose can be so difficult for some people.

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