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Hostas IN a pond?

15 years ago

Greetings!

I finally have my toad pond (to produce lots of toads to eat the slugs) all set up. Love the sound of the trickling water. Now I need to make it look pretty. On either this forum or the pond forum, someone suggested that hostas were one plant that did very well IN her pond. I did ask over there too, but that person hasn't surfaced.

Has anyone here had any experience with hostas IN a pond? One person on the pond forum suggested removing all of the soil from around the roots and planting it in pebbles in a pot. What do you think? Good idea? I'm new enough to both (hostas and ponds) that I know enough to be dangerous.

Robin in NC

Comments (22)

  • 15 years ago

    This is a few years old, but it came up near the top when I did a Google search for "hostas in a stream". There are other links too. Looks like it is very successful with the hostas in pots with rocks underwater.

    -Babka

    Here is a link that might be useful: Hostas IN water in a pond

  • 15 years ago

    I found a reference one time about hostas that are actually water plants in the wild, but I have forgotten which variety they were. I'd like to find the reference again, and see if I could order some, somewhere, it would be fun to grow them in my pond.

    Sandy

  • 15 years ago

    The hostas in that pond had just been put in there. I am sure it would work for awhile but I would bet money that they would start going downhill since the roots of hostas need to be able to breathe. That is why most growers use a very light mix when growing things in pots. Some even plant in bark for better drainage. A hosta will rot if the roots and crown are kept submerged.

    I have never seen any nursery sell hostas as water or bog plants.

  • 15 years ago

    They do really well next to a pond. This is O'Brien Nursery in CT.

    Steve

  • 15 years ago

    There WAS somebody here who really did grow them in a bog/pond. The moving water provided the air that was needed, and I think it even sprouted more eyes. It was left there when the water froze and came back the next Spring. Was that Butch Ragland? aka esther-opal? Not sure.

    -Babka

  • 15 years ago

    There WAS somebody here who really did grow them in a bog/pond. The moving water provided the air that was needed, and I think it even sprouted more eyes. It was left there when the water froze and came back the next Spring. Was that Butch Ragland? aka esther-opal? Not sure.

    -Babka

  • 15 years ago

    YES! I found it! It was Butch.

    -Babka

    Here is a link that might be useful: Butch's Bog with Hostas

  • 15 years ago

    franknjim - "A hosta will rot if the roots and crown are kept submerged."

    You never know what you don't know..... link below to hostas in a stream/water feature over multiple years. Stream may have more oxygen that standing water or maybe ....... Remember scientists were absolutely sure the world was flat.

    Paul

    Here is a link that might be useful: Hosta in a Stream

  • 15 years ago

    Ok, did some research. One reference said hostas will die in standing water. Diana Grenfell's New Encyclopedia of Hostas lists the species water lovers. The key seems to be boggy or marshy conditions, or roots trailing in moving water.

    Here is a link that might be useful: water loving hostas

  • 15 years ago

    Hey Paul, "Great minds think alike" !!!

    ;-) Sorry for the double post.

    -Babka

  • 15 years ago

    I have grown hosta in our bog for three years now, still doing great.
    Over wintered just fine.
    cAROL

  • 15 years ago

    cAROL, Can you post a pic of your bog. Sounds interesting.

  • 15 years ago

    I don't know about hostas in a pond,but I am trying hostas on an island in my little creek. It's too early to tell now,but I am using some common hosta,a Gold Standard,and an Albopicta,and one of my little green seedlings. So far,they are alive but haven't been there long enough to evaluate yet. Phil

  • 15 years ago

    sassy,I can't post pictures here,but I can send you one to your e mail tomorrow afternoon,7-5-11,,if that is ok.
    cAROL

  • 15 years ago

    cAROL, I sent you an email.
    my email address is: nursecarollpn@yahoo.com

  • 15 years ago

    I have tried hostas in standing water. It works, even in the heat here, but I got tired of mosquitoes. The roots did just fine, but I didn't submerge the crown.

  • 15 years ago

    Mary in Texas - a small submersible pump with any of various types of discharges that give good aeration will solve the vampire problem along with a couple feeder goldfish from W*M. I believe water movement solves the root-rot problem with hosta and venture to say that if you can keep a small toad pond vampire free by circulating water you can probably have a hosta of some kind in it - I have seen them growing in streams. I also 2nd the non-soil in the pot approach for plants IN water while right next to water very humusy soils seem best. The key is aerobic or anaerobic bacteria (can't keep them straight if I can't see them) which survive in unoxygenated or oxygenated water. One will generate ammonia that will kill roots and the other will generate nitrogen salts that will feed plants.

    I hope you realize I use vampire because I never remember how to spell "Muskie-toes", or believe Muskies deserve more respect.

    Les

  • 15 years ago

    Thanks for all the info!

    I looked at and read all the links. If I can find a cheap dwarf or mini hosta I will give it a try, otherwise I'll just wait until I have time next year to plant some around the pond.

    Part of my dilemma is my pond is the shape of a squashed circle, barely 3 feet in diameter, 1 foot deep on one side, and barely 1.5 feet deep on the other. Most of the water plants I read about spread wider than my pond is big OR they need more water over the top of the submerged plant OR need light OR discourage algae which I DON'T want to discourage so it can feed any tadpoles. Hey! I'm already experimenting with a compost pile and a worm bin, might as well add this to experiment with.

    Thanks again!

    Robin

  • 15 years ago

    Robin - I have been somewhat intrigued by the challenge of using plants to simulate a water fountain, and what better place than a small pool. You might check the currently running thread regarding favorite upright hostas and check the small ones.

    But without some form of circulation you will soon be unhappy with your toad pool. Regarding algae, don't encourage it too much. I don't think tadpoles feed on it but the micro-organisms that live in it, which will also live among plant roots, etc. Too much sun and no circulation and your pool will become algae choked and a slimy. stinky mess that will send your toads arunnin. An upright hosta might just be what is needed, even a medium/small one. It sounds like a nice experiment and I will be looking forward to how it works out.

    As the Cable Guy says, "Get it On!"

    Les

  • 15 years ago

    Wonder if a pond filter would be a good place to try out a hosta? I've used water hyacinth, with their long dangly filtering roots, and other water plants, and hostas sound like an interesting experiment.

  • 15 years ago

    I'd built a pond with a small, higher molded plastic upper bog pond that had my filter in it. It spilt over with a small waterfall into the lower pond where the punp was. I'd planted pickeral weed,a short canna and pennywort in it. Probably some iris would work there also. I would try a hosta. I just never thought about it. It was very fertile and certainly had good water flow.

    Les