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Ipe Tongue and Groove Installation Tips??

17 years ago

All,

I am soon to start installation of an Ipe T&G (1x4) floor on my screened porch. And am looking for installation tips and any related advise/thoughts.

THE FACTS

1. The material is kiln dried 1x4 Ipe T&G.

2. It has been in my basement since May--porch construction took longer than planned :-(.

3. To acclimatize the wood, I brought it outside last week, stacked it with spacers and kept 2 feet from ground and dry from rain with tarp.

4. I'm in Atlanta, still summer here and temp and humidity are high (though a littler lower than typical for peak summr in Atlanta).

5. Porch deck is 2-4 feet off ground.

6. Porch is 14x18 ft., open 3 sides with 14 ft. run against house. The area gets good cross ventilation.

7. Planned fasteners are SS #8x2 Trim Head screws.

8. T&G is being installed within a "picture frame" border of 1x6 Ipe decking

THE QUESTIONS

1. How tightly should the boards fit to each other?

2. Any end gapping necessary?

3. What (if any) gapping should there be between ends of T&G and Picture Frame-border?

4. I assume pre-drilling is necessary for the screws. Must they also be counter-sunk to get the head deep enough to allow tongue into the groove?

Thanks to all in advance!!

Comments (11)

  • 17 years ago

    Snug fit only do not jam the deckin with a hammer the way you would with an inside floor.

    By end gapping I am thinking butt joints no space is needed make up a tight joint.

    I pre drill through the G not the T be sure to drill thru the ipe only not into the pt frameI cut a 1/2'' slot in the T every 3' or so with the right install this and the screw will not show.

    I never use klin dried decking for an outside project and I get EastTeak to mill the material with rounded edges and an extra 1/8'' in the G. Laying out the material with stickers like you have will problelly alow it to acclimatize ,I love that word,and not swell up after install. Use high grade construstion adhesive and be sure to provide Cross Ventalation under your project

  • 17 years ago

    John,
    You put the screws in the groove, not the tongue. Is this to keep the fastener hidden as the boards shrink in the dry season? Or is there another reason you do it like that?

    thanks for all the tips,
    Aidan

  • 17 years ago

    Runing the screw thru the T will crush it down so it wont fit the G. J.

  • 17 years ago

    John...can you tell me how you go about cutting the 1/2" slot in the T? Do you use a router? How much do you take off?

    thanks...(ordering my T&G tomorrow)

  • 17 years ago

    Yo sparks, where you geting the ipe decking?

    We cut the slots with a jig saw, run the cuts,tap them out. Keep in mind this is a learned little trick, your not killing snakes. Slow Down...... A T/G ipe install requires attention to detail. J.

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks for the info john.

    I live in SC about an hour from Eastteak. I'm not buying the 5/4 x 6 ipe from george but am getting it from an importer in Charleston (just couldn't pass up the $1500 savings). I guess a lot of ipe comes into the ports of charleston (lots advertised on craigslist here). I'm still gonna drive up and get some garapa fascia from Eastteak to finish this deck off.

  • 17 years ago

    There are maney reasons for the cost of ipe from East Teak.

    J.

  • 17 years ago

    I had my contractor install a 2nd floor covered porch. It was nailed, and joints glued, over PT 2"x8" stringers. The decking material we're using is PT 1"x6" T&G planking that is smooth on one side and has the appearance of bead-board on the other side. The bead-board side faces down, creating the exposed ceiling of the first floor porch.

    The PT lumber was stored according to instructions (stacked outside on a covered patio, with spacers for aeration and loosely covered) for several months.

    Within one day of installation it severely buckled and cupped. Any ideas as to what went wrong and how to correct this problem?
    Thanks,
    Grandma Sheri

  • 17 years ago

    If this project was exposed to the sun/rain>> dont nail it,defentley do not glue the joints if your talking about the T&G joints or your just asking for troubleCorection includes removal/reinstall with new material. J.

  • 7 years ago

    what are the requirements for oiling the t &G IPE on a screened porch - we have a sub floor.