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DIY Surprises!

11 years ago

We bought a house in July and have been working on bringing it up to the 21st century ever since. The roof is fixed, the fireplace removed, popcorn removed, and we're painting away. Still waiting on windows, floors, and kitchen. Then today:


The hall bath needed work. We knew going in that there had been a leak in there, but that all was fixed, so say the seller's documents. We bought the tile, thinset, etc., a new vanity, and paint. Today's project was to remove the old vinyl and underlying pressboard. Actually, we didn't know what was under it until we started. So the pressboard would go and we'd put cement board over the original linoleum from when the house was built in '64. (It probably has asbestos, so best to leave it.) Until...first there was water staining on the underlying lino as the pressboard at one time was soaked through. OK. Then we got closer to the toilet and discovered the sub-floor is also damaged. It looks as though they cut out the old linoleum in that area, but the pressboard was clearly wet since that time. There is a point at which a job just isn't so DIY friendly.


We have a call into our Home Warranty Coverage company that came with the purchase of the house. The first person we talked to said they only cover appliances, but our real estate person says talk to our rep. Call's in. Any bets on how that will come out?

Comments (18)

  • 11 years ago

    Yikes! You may be right. Not what we were planning (famous last words) on top of the other major expenses.

  • 11 years ago

    What does this home warranty cover?

    I wonder how far it spread, if it got under the shower then I agree its a gut job, but perhaps the floor has a slight slope away from the shower, you could cut out the damaged subfloor if it didn't go under the shower. Unlikely but possible.

    suzanne_sl thanked Vith
  • 11 years ago

    We currently don't know what the home warranty covers. They gave us a postcard from the company along with all the legal papers when we closed. Now being motivated to find out, we're waiting for a return call. Looking at their website, I'm guessing we have the "basic" plan which doesn't cover plumbing issues, but we'll see. Meanwhile, we've closed the door to the bathroom and will have someone who knows have a look. Our alternate activity for the day has been to paint our bedroom.

  • 11 years ago

    Home warrantied typically cover almost nothing but new appliances that don't need warranties. And then only after a fight and a large deductible that equals a standard service charge from most repair guys.

    If this were an acute situation, homeowners might cover it. This is old water damage. No one but you will have to pay for that. At least it's exposing the garbage that needs to be ripped out anyway! Think of that as a positive.

    suzanne_sl thanked User
  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    live_wire_oak

    That's not home warranty territory. That is a complete gut to the studs, remediate the mold, and rebuild the bath from scratch.

    Yup. You're doing a bath reno! So, let's get started...

    suzanne_sl thanked User
  • 11 years ago

    The original plan was a bath reno, just not the kind that involves removing the subfloor! *sigh*

  • 11 years ago

    Now it is. Sorry.

    suzanne_sl thanked User
  • 11 years ago
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    Not only removing the subfloor, but treating the joists for mold. At least you'll get a good view of them and their spacing and will be able to replace that awful subfloor. Now you can fix it to have tile!

    suzanne_sl thanked User
  • 11 years ago

    DIY doesn't even start to be fun until you have to get the Sawzall out! Bathrooms aren't so bad, at least they are small.

    suzanne_sl thanked rwiegand
  • 11 years ago

    We had a toilet leak that resulted in replacing not only the subfloor but the joists. Details/pics here

    suzanne_sl thanked weedyacres
  • 11 years ago

    OMG, Weedy! At least at the end you had a much nicer bathroom.

  • 11 years ago

    Oh wow ... been there and fixed that a couple of times.

    Did some fool forget to install the wax ring?

    Remove the toilet and the sink cabinet ... remove the flooring down to the subfloor and see how big the damaged spot is. Remove subfloor and check the joists.

    You can slice out the damaged subfloor and "sister" in joists to reinforce the floor, then patch the subfloor.

    suzanne_sl thanked User
  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Pull the toilet, cabinet, and floor. Remove a little drywall below the baseboard line and take a peek at the studs. Demolition is not always a freight train; it can be nuanced.

    suzanne_sl thanked Joseph Corlett, LLC
  • 11 years ago

    No advice, just...I'm sorry!

    suzanne_sl thanked chisue
  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    weedy, awsome job, simple, well though out, i have a tub surround that ready for tile you game.

  • 11 years ago

    I don't think that the home warranty would cover that. Did you get a home inspection? That might be whom you should be looking to for liability. Was the floor soft to walk on? Did it give at all? If so, it should have been noted in the report. Where you there with the inspector during the inspection? You would have to prove that the previous owners knew it was leaking and covered it up. That would probably be very difficult.

    suzanne_sl thanked K Sissy
  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Home inspectors are never liable, the contract you sign with them will state this specifically. Read the general provisions on this example http://www.homeinspectionplus.com/contract2.pdf

    suzanne_sl thanked Vith