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Help! MDF quality in question

10 years ago
I ordered unfinished mdf doors from a Wisconsin company that claimed quality and light minimal sanding. Is this typical quality to expect from mdf doors?

Comments (19)

  • 10 years ago

    No. Crap quality.

  • 10 years ago
    Is this what it looks like before or after light sanding? Lightly sand and repost pics. I want to know if this is just fuzz or defective product - but I agree with prior poster, looks like crap construction
  • 10 years ago
    Avoid MDF at all costs. I have been in the home renovation business for decades and this product is garbage. Too heavy, must be sealed, never to be around any humid areas and no matter what they tell you it warps.
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Send them back...

  • 10 years ago
    You have another post showing white mdf cabinets in your kitchen. Are these the same cabinets? Never would I use mdf in a kitchen. These are not working, sorry.
  • 10 years ago

    @Sandy - MDF is used in many (possible most) painted kitchen cabinets. Many with painted cabinets do not even realize that their cabinets are not wood. It will be interesting to see how they hold up.

    These cabinets are very flawed and I hope they can be returned.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Those look terrible as though their blades were not sharp. MDF is very easy to shape and mill so they must have had a problem with their equipment. The staining on the corner in the first photo is insignificant, after priming and painting you'll not see it. Be sure you prime MDF on all six sides, front, back, & edges. (Contractors never do that.) The primer will seal the MDF then light moisture and humidity will not be a problem. MDF provides an extremely smooth finish but those divots in the second photo will not sand out and will show unless they're filled. I would send those doors back and ask for replacements at their expense.

  • 10 years ago
    I believe you can tell if a cabinet door is solid wood or mdf.
  • 10 years ago

    You'd lose that bet on 99% of good quality painted doors. They aren't going to look any different than painted maple when freshly done. Over time, the cracks in the finish of a wood door will show which is which. That's even being done in MDF as well.

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  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Those look crappy but that said MDF painted cabinets are my go to often as they don’t show expansion cracks and the finish if done in a spray booth is perfect.

  • 10 years ago
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    @Sandy - many do not know that MDF is even used in cabinet doors and don't think to ask or check. I've seen post here from people discovering that all are part of their painted cabinets are MDF and not wood. Even higher end painted cabinets will often have an MDF panel for stability. Wood moves with changes in temp and humidity and this causes cracks in the paint at the joints, so many manufacturers of painted cabinets used MDF because it does not move. Most painted cabinetry from a home center store has all or part MDF doors. Even Omega Dynasty, which I have heard is a good cabinet company, list MDF as a "wood" choice for doors. I don't have any opinion as to whether MDF makes a good painted cabinet door or not - that all will be determined when we see how these cabinets stand up over time.

    I would personally prefer to see cabinets that will last decades and be able to be refinished or repainted rather than ripped out and thrown into the garbage every time the trends changes. If it becomes the fashion to rip out a kitchen every 12 to 15 years, which is what I am seeing - then cabinets might as well be made of MDF.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    You can repaint anything. No reason to rip painted MDF cabinets out. What you are NOT going to do is ''refinish'' painted cabinets, of any kind, to a stained finish.

  • PRO
    10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    MDF is used in some of the most expensive furniture in the world. It is the most stable product used in the furniture industry. Even solid maple cabinet doors that are painted will have MDF center panels. The reason is there is no expansion allowing the door to be made solid. Besides this the center panel is what is judged in a painted finish. You would spend 5x's as much time trying to get a plywood or solid wood panel as straight.

    If I handed you a painted MDF cored door and a ply or wood door you would not be able to tell the difference. With todays paint technology you loose the woodgrain and any tell tale signs of the product being wood. Also today tastes have changed and people expect everything to look smooth like plastic and perceive this as a quality job.

    There are different different grades of MDF and even damp resistance MDF sheets. MDF doors loose some of the detail that real wood doors have depending on the style. This is getting blurred with the news paints as they lay on very glass or plastic looking hiding a lot of details.

    There are plenty of houses with 30-40 year old MDF cabinets that don't even know it. Due to the stability of the product they might even be holding up better. My mother has a 40 year old woodgrain formica/mdf door kitchen that you would swear was installed yesterday.

    I love real wood but you also have to like it's characteristics which means grain, color variation and a product that moves. This includes sticking doors and cracked finishes. Mixing the two technologies is the best of both worlds.

    $100k cabinets are real wood and hand painted with grain and brush strokes. Try selling that in the $10k range. People want brown painted shiny perfect doors, not for me. Thank Crate and Barrel.

  • 10 years ago
    The company has been incredibly difficult to work with. I'll post a longer update shortly.
  • 10 years ago
    Background detail: ordered from this company bc after speaking with multiple contractors and professionals they said if we were planning on painting MDF would be good as long as it is sealed properly. The company said minimal sanding would be suggested. It's nearly impossible(conservatively) to sand these and not compromise the angles of the molding. We looked at filling them to correct any issues. What a joke. Even with proper priming, sanding and filling the imperfections are glaring. We thought maybe our expectations were unreasonable but it sounds like they weren't based on what we are seeing here in response. We did a TON of research before we decided to take this route. Proper sealing, addressing porous edges, appropriate sanding etc. We bought a spray gun and compressor. Which we practiced familiarizing ourselves with. The last thing we wanted was for this to look like a DIY job. The company claims they're only responsible prior to shipment but the damages are clearly manufacturing issues not damaged in shipment. I was very careful when unwrapping them and noted damages to which were clearly not from shipment as boxes were pristine and I'm shocked they spent the amount of time and detail packaging them with the level of quality and damage that they shipped. Over 90% of our order was like this. I did post a photo of painted doors in another post- though I'll post what the attempt to fix the doors looked. It's embarrassing after we've invested so much time and money in granite, remodeling and new appliances. I would have done better making the doors myself (which I was initially doing) successfully I might add :). We are at a stand still as the company rarely responds and their posted website numbers are disconnected. This is what remodel horror stories are made of. I'm not quite ready to laugh but hope someday we will. At this point we have been living in remodel disorganization and I don't even want to paint them. I just want doors to arrive ready to go. I've cried enough tears. Lol. They said they'll send replacement doors but I question that they can even create a product remotely as they say they are selling. We've incurred extensive expenses due to their error. Sorry to ramble. We are beyond frustrated. Photo is non-complete paint (you can tell the variance left to right) bc it was clear that regardless of what we tried to do aside from recreating the wheel we would still have their damaged and misrepresented product even with paint. You can se even when we attempted to correct their manufacturing it is very obvious.
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    You poor thing, I know how you feel. The only glaring thing I see in this photo is the ding in the lower left corner of the right door. I have learned over the years that there is no such thing as perfection in construction. Most imperfections will be invisible in about six month simply because you quit obsessing over it. I believe that ding will bug you for the rest of your life!

    I purchased some cabinets six years ago and was horrified by the color when they arrived. They were supposed to be a dark mahogany but they were very pink! When direct sunlight hits them they even cast a pink shadow on the floor. I couldn't get any satisfaction from the supplier so I 'ate it' and they were installed. They look good at night . . . in the dark. They don't really annoy me anymore but I hate not getting what I expected.

    I hope you can get satisfaction on your raggedy doors. If you can't, then get a sanding sponge with a tapered edge and get busy. That sponge will do a good job.

  • 10 years ago

    Send them back!

  • 3 years ago

    Such an amazing amount of ignorance on this page.

    I would guess that half the people here commenting have never even worked a piece of MDF!

    Those 20k beautifully veneered Italian dining tables - MDF core

    Your 100K kitchen with acrylic drawer/door fronts? - MDF core


    I've built TONS of furniture using MDF - and it is incredible stable and uniform in density.

    It paints beautifully and the edges also come out wonderfully if you know what you're doing.


    Plywood - yikes. it makes sense for a wood finish but there's really no reason to use it for a painted finish - it will not result in as good a finish unless you want to spend time and effort grain filling.. etc.


    For those that say it's "Rubbish/Crap etc" - please give me a reason why you say that so that i can understand if you've actually assessed the material or are just parroting uninformed fashionable thinking.


    I will say that it is unpleasant to rout and cut from a dust perspective. But, professional dust extraction fixes that problem ...

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