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Make my cables disappear

I'm working on a wall of floating shelves after some Houzz inspiration.

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The shelves I built are hollow MDF torsion boxes attached to cleats on the wall, that will eventually be skinned in walnut veneer.

I decided that rather than set my AV equipment on top of the shelf, why not do something a little different and hang it under a shelf. I fabbed up some hangers using a slotted L bracket and some aluminum angle that is all going to be painted black.


What I am now trying to figure out is how to hide all the cords, transformers, plugs and other crap below the shelf. Threading cables through a wall is the easy part. Behind the wall is open crawl space under the house, so plenty of room to work. I'm thinking about moving all the outlets to the underside of the house (behind the wall) and then having some sort of access panel with hole and grommet to feed cables.

Any other ideas?

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  • 10 years ago

    I think I would have a custom cabinet built around the lower shelf with a set of doors that slide can right or left.

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    The bottom piece should have been a cabinet with the T.V mounted just above it you will now have to add a front and sides to your shelf and I sure hope you are not going to load the shelves like in your inspiration photo that would ruin the whole look of this wall in fact IMO those shelves are too high and unessessary along with that fireplace just too much happening for a T.V wall

  • PRO
    10 years ago
    cabinets are not happening. that defeats the purpose. think outside the cabinet
  • 10 years ago

    The pros like to hide all that in an adjoining closet so you're on the right track with going behind the wall.

  • 10 years ago

    You have to have an adjacent space where the clutter can be held, and then use an IR repeater. You CANNOT just run appliance cords behind a wall.

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Since the shelves are hollow, could you string the excess cords within the shelves? Then, where they plug in to the wall you can cover them with cord cover, which are available in different widths and sizes.

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  • 10 years ago

    Can you move all the plugs and cable to behind the tv? Is this the only tv in the house?

  • 10 years ago

    this:

  • 10 years ago

    I was also going to suggest trying to secure everything to the lower shelf -- either essentially staple-securing the cords to the rear underside (like one does with Christmas lights), or actually routing out a channel in the bottom shelf into which to recess all the cables.

    1) I don't think you want outlets in an open crawl space! the number of ways this could lead to disaster is numerous

    2) if your shelves are hollow, then that's a great place to wad all the extra length, since your outlets are right there. then, as Glo said, you can just cover the small portions that would be visible. and recess the connection wires as ascorsonelli suggested.

    It's too bad you didn't know about these existing brackets that are designed to let you hang all your components right behind the actual flat-screen TV, so that there's nothing to hide but the power cords. Might still be an approach worth exploring.

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    acm i did know about the brackets, but your TV then protrudes into the space. Also not what I'm going for.

  • 10 years ago
    Here is another option
    The tv is mounted to the wall. Right behind the tv you get an electrician to install a plug there.
    All the stuff (cable boxes...) is actually next to the couch facing the tv underneath the side table. The power supply is next to the couch for those stuff.
    Then you get extra long hdmi cable (check Amazon) that runs in the wall next to the couch, down the crawl space and then comes back up next to the plug that supplies the tv.
    You need to get tv recessed box for a nice finish look.
    So basically all you see on the wall is the tv. Nothing else.
    When you change channels with the remote you face the tv and point at the tv. And yes it does work.
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    I had a customer a few months back do something very similar and in fact did build a hide-away door into the wall where he was able to hide most of his wiring and surge protectors. His shelving had a 1" lip that hung down in front that allowed him to secure his wires behind the lip extending into the wall giving all his electronics a wireless look. He also used a product similar to what Glo European has pictured to help hide any noticeable wires from the underside of the shelves. Sorry do not have any photos but the customer did it himself, which in my opinion was better work than what some professionals can do.

  • 10 years ago

    Jason, re: "think outside the cabinet", if budget is no object, I would suggest just hiring a pro. to create a solution. Hiding cords is part of the design phase of any new system.

  • PRO
    10 years ago
    Elle that is very anti-DIY. If I were going to hire a pro, I wouldn't be asking all of you nice folks.
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    We make custom cabinets to solve this issue as well as TV Lift Systems

  • 10 years ago

    Hi Jason, if you read a DIY solution you like and have the skills to pull it off, by all means you could do it!

  • 10 years ago

    A secret door in the wall where everything and the outlet(s) hide.

    Joe

  • 10 years ago
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    Search "cord and power tv kit" on Amazon for some ideas. I just hooked up my flat screen with all the cords hidden. Look for kits that come with an approved power cord and plug that follows code. Sophie is right, you cannot just run the TV power cord down through the wall. Most kits are designed to get the cords/cables down to a power source near the floor, which would be hidden by the dreaded cabinet. But I flipped the lower opening to the adjacent closet behind the TV. You said you have access to crawl space, but you need an outlet there. I used the closet and plugged in a surge protector to handle the TV power plug and Amazon Fire Stick plug (which is very short, be warned). TV power/cable hiding gizmo

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Since you don’t like our suggestions go ahead and do whatever you think will work outside the box litereally

  • 10 years ago
    For our new Curve tv we had an electrician install an outlet the same as Bere shows. He then ran cable under the house so nothing shows except the cable box.
    I wouldn't mess around with this unless you are well experienced in electrical.
    Do you find you tv a little low? Perhaps mount it higher and put the cable box on the shelf.
  • 10 years ago
    Heres a different angle. What exactly is your equipment and how much is really necessary vs just a "manhood" thing. Everything is digital and wireless now such that all u need is a modem and router and smarttv. Small appletv box vs xbox vs romu. You certainly dont need canle boxes, dvd players, bluray, receivers, stereos or other outdated equipment.

    So with that, elimate your equipment and cords and pit them away in a cabinet with only the small appletv visible. Then use small potted plants, devorative objects or cord covers to hide those cords.

    ( Unless the only people i have over are dudes who you wanna impress with your "equipment" and therefore need it all exposed)
  • PRO
    10 years ago
    was thinking the same as the above comments -- a lower cabinet would be a great solution
  • 10 years ago
    Jason, this is not a DIY forum, but more a design forum. The pros chime in when they see someone is in over their head.
    The first element of a design is planning. Perhaps hiring someone who can help you achieve a well designed space will help.
  • 10 years ago
    My husband's man cave.
    No wires, everything threads out of the plug behind the tv.
  • 10 years ago
    To achieve that kind of minimalist look, I would figure out a way to rotate and align all outlets (coax electrical etc) so they extent as little below the shelf as possible and are mostly hidden by the thickness of the shelf (minus the top plywood). Think landscape vs portrait.

    Modify the design of that lower shelf assembly so there are notches along the back to meet up with those outlets and some open sections in the lower piece of mdf.

    Get some Velcro anchors for the various power supplies and cables to attach them under in that void. Also research and get the shortest version of cables that can do the job to minimize how much to coil/store.

    Or put everything elsewhere, run an hdmi over cat6 extender and an IR repeater or RF remote as others suggested.
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  • 10 years ago

    I'm thinking here to myself out loud that is. If someone wants to go on a thread to say insult someone's manhood perhaps, then that someone . Not naming any names mind you, should learn how to spell before doing so. That's what I was here thinking to myself.

  • 10 years ago
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    I assure you, I know the difference between prostrate and prostate. And if someone wants to pretend to not insult someone while insulting them, it'd be much less tiresome to be direct and specific and go ahead and insult them. I have no problems with that.

    But to cop a know it all attitude while not knowing it all and then shooting down helpful suggestions is gonna get dudebro called out.

    195- something spelling bee champion, BTW.

  • 10 years ago

    I might be wrong, but think she meant someone else, Sophie.

  • 10 years ago

    Wasn't directed at you Sophie. I was talking to the person known as Shining Autumn. The one that neither punctuates or spells properly.

  • 10 years ago

    K. Fine. See, I can deal either way. Not everyone was the spelling bee champ of 195- though. Or has spellcheck. Or even went to school and didn't eat the books. Gotta give allowances for some life circumstances. Even tho...

  • 10 years ago

    Easy-

    Cut a sheet of drywall (thick enough so it doesn't warp) to the width of the shelf, and between the shelf and the floor, with a couple divots along the top edge to allow wires to be laced behind the panel. Tape and sand edges. Make sure it's away from the wall far enough to hide the wall outlet and plugs (you can minimize the depth of the plugs by finding flat plugs) or the powerstrip. Replicate the floorboard trim, and paint it to match the wall. Try and cut it tight enough that the tension between the shelf and the floor holds it in place, as it will make it easier to pull out when you want to re-wire.

    I suppose you could do a version of this 1' wide, but the edges would be more noticeable.

    Another trick I use is to just put a powerstrip inside a basket that is almost the height of the space, and drop your wires into the basket, shove under shelf.

  • 10 years ago

    Sophie, spellcheck and autocorrect just make things worse. I spend half my time correcting autocorrect.

  • 10 years ago

    Spelling Bee Champ, very cool. I didn't eat the books I hope that counts. I did read everything I could get a hold of. I agree with Tribble , autocorrect and I are sworn enemies . It's gotten me into too many messes lately. Sorry for the confusion. Your comment well yes...hee hee.

  • 10 years ago

    @ rod the basket trick is more my speed. I was going to suggest paintable wire covers. Just to repeat you can't put an outlet in the crawlspace. For one thing you aren't an electrician, for another it's a fire hazard. Before you go rewiring things consult with an electrician. However I think there are simpler solutions. Just for Shining etc. It has nothing to do with his manhood. My Father was a G.C. , a plumber and electrician . He also liked to collect electronics. Reel to reels, taped machines, V.C.R.'s and so on. Granted that was a long time ago , now he would have shelves of whatever it is Jason has there. The two are not connected.

  • 10 years ago

    Who to, what direction, Mich? I'm lying down, will I crook one leg in the air?

  • 10 years ago

    Yes, many people still use "old " tech because of personal preferences. Some like the sound or picture better.

  • 10 years ago

    Look what up, I'm confused...

  • 10 years ago

    All will become clear in due time ....

  • 10 years ago

    ??? Can you post a link to the due time thread?