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Help! Should we be worried?

9 years ago


Hi everyone- we took down a load-bearing wall in our living room 2 1/2 years ago when we first bought our home. The person we hired installed a beam in our attic. Ever since then, we have noticed hairline cracks appearing throughout our home (mainly in our master bedroom and our living room). Some people have told us not to worry, that it is probably just the drywall that didn't dry correctly on the seams. Which makes sense for the living room, but we didn't touch the drywall in our master bedroom. We're concerned that maybe the work wasn't done correctly. Should we hire a structural engineer to come out and take a look? Our home is on a slab, so no crawl space. Is it normal for cracks to appear throughout a house? When should we be concerned? I know that professional advice can't really be given on this forum, I'm just wondering if our concerns are legitimate, or am I overreacting to normal cracks.

Comments (22)

  • 9 years ago

    Ok thank you! Will get on it ASAP.

  • 9 years ago

    I'm kind of curious about this too. Are there normal "settling" cracks?

    Maria Palmieri thanked dawna177
  • 9 years ago

    The crack in the picture is from our living room and there is a very similar one going across the ceiling of our master bedroom. I basically go between freaking out and telling myself it's normal settling lol.

  • 9 years ago

    Beth- I see that you are local to us (we're in Pasadena). Do you happen to recommend someone for the work? Just curious =)

  • 9 years ago

    Sorry Maria. I do not have a structural engineer that I've used. My husband is a GC. Let me see what he says or if he knows of someone.

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you soooo much!!!!

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    That looks more like bad drywall work than bad framing, but both need to be checked. Was the structural work approved, permitted, and inspected? If so the work may have already been specified by an engineer.

  • 9 years ago

    I thought the same thing (drywall) but then she mentioned that there are cracks in her bedroom where the drywall wasn't touched. I don't know how the bedroom relates to the house, if this is a two story, where the beam was added, if he cut joists,,etc. Was the work signed off by an inspector? too many unanswered questions to really say if it's bad drywall. plus it's been 2 years? how long before the cracks appeared? If it's drywall, I wouldn't think it would take 2 years to suddenly show.

  • 9 years ago

    Hi everyone! Okay- so I know, not good, but it was not permitted. So hence, our concerns. The house is single story. As for the master bedroom- the only things we did to it was add a large window, paint and change the light fixture to a chandelier. And the crack started showing up shortly after changing the light fixture. All of this work was done 2 1/2 years ago and the cracks have started showing up after the work was completed and have grown ever since. They started as small cracks and have grown.

  • 9 years ago
    I'd look at the installation of the large window you added.
  • 9 years ago

    Hmmm...ok...would that be the same person that could look at both? Or do I hire someone else for that?

  • 9 years ago

    did you happen to take any pics of the install of anything? anything while the walls or the ceiling was open?

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    I suggest you have a structural engineer come to the house to look at the beam size, condition, and its support. He'll know quickly how it works with the rest of the framing in the house. As to the window, the reasons for the cracking will likely be clearer once it is determined if the wall in which the window is located is taking the load of framing above it. If you added a larger window than the one that was there, it could be that the framing at the top of the window is now inadequate for the window span. We don't really know any of the specifics of the framing of the house, so it is difficult to comment properly. The structural engineer should be very helpful for you.

  • 9 years ago

    No, didn't take any pics =( ok, i'll contact a structural engineer ASAP. Thank you all soooo much!!!

  • 9 years ago
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    chiquita,,,,so on the window. you went larger, right? do you know if they put in a different, stronger header beam? if they just went with what was there or used 2x4's, there probably isn't enough support and it's causing it sag, which would cause your cracks.

    ditto for the beam in the ceiling. if they just used a 2X6, depending on the span, it might not have been large enough. maybe a 2x12 would have been warranted? without seeing what they used, it's hard to guess. But it sounds like insufficient support was used in both spots. That would cause 'sagging' which would cause shifting in the supports/drywall, hence your cracks.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Structural engineer can stop all your worrying with a good inspection and recommendations for remediation if needed. It seems structural to me based on growth progression, but without being there not sure. Also, are there cracks at the corners of the window you replaced angling up and away from the windows? That would indicate some settling. Just have to have a expert check it out. If it wasn't permitted, I would surely want it inspected now. Good, what I call "cheap sleep"! Also, if you ever go to sell this home, you have to disclose this condition and what was done to remediate it, so good to do it all the way around.

  • 9 years ago

    The large window that we added has a crack coming from the


    Top/center above the window on the inside of the house. Not sure if you can see it in the photo. So, it makes sense what you're saying about the window lacking support. =(

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    That looks like a standard settling crack from the new window. The ones in the ceiling are more concerning, but you just have to get it checked out for sure.

  • 9 years ago

    Ok thank you!

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Even if the work was not permitted structural engineer should still be hired. Every time you remove walls and replace them with beams the beams need to be calculated by the structural engineer, how does your contractor know what size beam to place... what a joke. That's what engineers are for and they also carry the liability insurance for such things. Hairline cracks all over the place from settling are absolutely not normal. Also if the beam is not big enough or not installed properly you are in serious danger in case of an earthquake.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    "Every time you remove walls and replace them with beams the beams need to be calculated by the structural engineer, how does your contractor know what size beam to place... what a joke."


    I designed, built, and installed a structural beam in my father-in-laws house. It was approved at its first inspection. Although I'm a licensed contractor in two states, I have no engineering background. Anyone who can read a span chart can calculate beam sizes. The engineering has already been done. It ain't all that.