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Calling all haworthians....continued

9 years ago

452 Haworthia bayeri (GM 264)

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  • 9 years ago
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    Huh? Wait...what? Christina you're just holding 2 plants, right? I've seen the pictures of the truncatas and I've wondered how big/long they get. Do they just keep growing longer and longer? New leaves grow from the center with the older leaves being pushed to the outside, right? Eventually, the older outside leaves get old and dry up to be plucked off? Or used as cuttings to start more? You wouldn't just say cut that big one in half and have 2 plants then, right?

    Congrats on the seeds you harvested, Pagan. That was from your 1st pollinations, right?

    Tyler

  • 9 years ago

    Yes, two different kinds of truncata. And yes, I think you would have a biiiiit of a problem if you halved a haworthia lol! It might grow still? But it would be ugly.

    Heres a photo I found on google:

  • 9 years ago
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    Oh. That was you, Christina. I thought it was Tyler's. Phone screen, sorry.

    I've done that, too. I gave away a large clump and I think it's dead now. But the clump I kept is now the same size as before, it only took two years.

    Truncatas will grow longer as new leaves form in the middle and then grow new rows as well. It becomes difficult to water without flooding the crevices so if you don't like bottom-watering, you'll have to break it up or move it to a bigger pot.

    Yes, Tyler, my first hand-pollination experiment! I think I have about 50 seeds or more. There are two more pods on the same plant still drying out but I've cut the entire stem because most of the pods were snapping open.

    I also got two pods from the other donor plant and they're much bigger! Still on the plant though. They're taking longer.

  • 9 years ago
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    Pagan, what were the seed and pollen plants you crossed? Pics, please? I've never gotten that many seed from a cross and I've been at this for a couple of years... must be doing something wrong!!!!

  • 9 years ago

    WOW! That is a very full pot and it looks very nice that way. No need to separate, huh?

    So other than what I've seen on the forum I'm not familiar with their habit. From what you can see in the picture above, together with what you know about the way they grow, would you imagine that it is all one plant that has continued to grow filling up the plant or is that the mother with lots of babies...?

    I've seen some very small ones for sale online that were advertised as growing in kind of a spiraling pattern, but someone had one that didn't seem to be spiraling very well so I kind of got off of that one.

    Thanks,

    Tyler

  • 9 years ago
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    I don't use a transfer tool, Doc.I use a pair of locking forceps to snap off the entire stamen and rub the pistil directly on to the stigma.

    Voila. There are still seeds in those pods. Hopefully they are all viable. I don't know how to tell. I'll squish one later just to see.

  • 9 years ago
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    Pagan, I do exactly as you are doing. Sometimes I get lots of seed and many times lucky to get three or four. I wonder if time of day or ambient temperature has anything to do with seed quantity?

  • 9 years ago
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    I don't get it. I followed your instructions! lol

    Oh..wait, maybe the feeding? I fertilized mine while the pods were developing (I don't normally bother feeding haworthias much, just a sporadic whiff here and there. Or not.) I also used the fertilizer I use only on my hoya which I bet you have----Jack's Classic bloom booster. Basically, I treated the plant like a pregnant mammal.

  • 9 years ago

    I use the formula developed at Michigan State University for orchids. It's a pretty basic food for rain water or RO water with the usual micro nutrients, including Ca and Mg. I tend to feed spring and fall only.

  • 9 years ago

    My Haworthia truncata "lime green" -- something took a bite out of it last summer when all of my plants were outside!!!

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    WOw, such healthy beautifully tended plants. I'm taking notes for sure.
    BIkerdoc, your plants are wondrous. Am catching those tidbits of growing advise.
    I seem to do okay with some types better than others. My 3 Corner Hat went through an ugly desiccated phase after repotting.


    Here it is one year later (last week) with it's pals (hybrid cross emelyae x herbacea -that's all there was on the tags).

    Not in all day full sun, so 3CH reverted to green form.


    The twins in flower:

    I notice they really do appreciate low mineral water. The rain water did wonders for them.

  • 9 years ago
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    Chipmunks, Miniotoro Ranimal, chipmunks! They absolutely love chewing on haworthias, especially the flower buds. Squirrels would take a nib or two and kick everything around but it's chipmunks I kept catching red-snouted. Their chomp looks like that on your truncata.

  • 9 years ago

    Some truncata get pretty massive. I think I bought one hybrid that grows to be 8 or 9" for one plant? Something like that. Don't have it yet but that'll be a problem my future self will have to deal with.

    Aztcqn - That's a neat herbacea hybrid. The patterning on those is fun. I think the Three Cornered Hat really looks best when that dark reddish brown colour. =)

  • 9 years ago

    I was about to make the same comment, Kevin, about the----why is it called Three Cornered Hat?

    Speaking of obstinately green, has anyone noticed how Secret Forest does not change colour regardless of light intensity? Has anyone tried putting this one in the sun?

  • 9 years ago

    It's called Three Cornered Hat because it grows in a pattern of three distinct pointed leaves.

    My Secret Forest is a pretty deep dark green. I haven't tried putting it in higher light before. It grows and reacts so slowly for me. Did you keep yours in higher light for a fairly long time?

    Today I got a couple more lights and plan to rearrange my grow shelf. Maybe I'll find a brighter spot to try.

  • 9 years ago

    ewwmayo, I agree. 3CH looks amazing when dark. The tubercles glisten in contrast.
    Squirrels are incredibly obnoxious. I find half bitten Pachyveria Oviferum leaves in the mornings. Sigh.......

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    Ach. I had to build a haworthia house for protection against squirrels, aztcqn. It sounds weird but I would rather they ate the plants instead of just kicking them around so that it would take months for me to be able to write them off as losses.

    Kevin, I wanted red! But yes, it's dark green.

    BTW, for anyone still watching the seeds project, this is what they look like when pods start to open:

  • 9 years ago

    Farm visit.

    Over my budget...:(

  • 9 years ago
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    ycloh1, what is the price range for haworthias of this kind there?

  • 9 years ago

    Yes, I would love to know pricing for pics # 2,3 and 4? In local currency or not.

  • 9 years ago

    Last year I used a motion detecting sprinkler to scare away the squirrels on my roof. This year I am going to get a second one to keep those buggers totally away!

    Pagan - Next week I'll try to move mine a bit closer. I see the reddish colour from the STC photo and it does look pretty nice.

    Lust for variegated truncata is high!! I don't think I can afford those ones either, haha.

  • 9 years ago

    Pagan, nesary import from Japan. It price a few hundreds... To x for my budget. And not sure can keep them alive in Singapore. Always loosing roots.

  • 9 years ago

    Here more.

    Happy viewing...

  • 9 years ago

    It's too hot, you'll have to aircondition a special growing room! Like a reverse greenhouse.

  • 9 years ago

    Ycloh1, I'm just crying over here, too beautiful. I can't afford those either lol

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    Just found this site on plant list.

    http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=Haworthia

    Should solve some problems with wrong names.

  • 9 years ago

    Christine Bay Area, me too. So hesitate to ask the farmer for what's the price?


  • 9 years ago

    Miss out these babies....

    Cheers

  • 9 years ago
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    Cheers? What do you mean, "cheers"? Lol you mean "drool", right? Do you have photos of shiny ones? Like springbokvlakensis and its ilk. And what haworthias do you actually have, ycloh1?

  • 9 years ago

    H. Trancata, you won't believe how I kept it alive...

    Top view.

    H. ??

    Try my best to keep them alive


  • 9 years ago
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    Have to learn how to keep them. Always root rot.

    but this guy grew new root tip.

  • 9 years ago
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    Hm. Let me guess---in the refrigerator with a grow light? Hehe I told my sister it's the only way she can grow a sempervivum in Manila.

    Some of those look like they're in grow stones.

  • 9 years ago

    The truncata I kept in bed room by by the window. At night air-con is on. So keep the plant cool. I havw kept this way for about 3 months . So far so good. No root rot. The red pot is for hydroculture purpose. The media used are LACA. And nothing else. Water once a week. The air-con help to dry up the media

  • 9 years ago

    Ycloh1 - I now have the variegated Haworthia 'Marin'. Mine has very little variegation but hopefully it develops more like those ones you posted above. =)

  • 9 years ago

    Ewwmayo, hope it does. Keeping Haworthia here in Singapore is worrisome. It like keeping it in ICU hospital. Checking it every day.

    Try very very hard to stay away from Haworthia. But it too beautiful. Buy the cheap one and learn how to keep the alive. We are actually trying to mimic nature at our home in different countries to suite the plants. That what I think.



  • 9 years ago

    Pagan, shall we start a new thread "Calling all haworthians.... April 2017"?

  • 9 years ago
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    Of the three related genus, haworthia will give you the most trouble, ycloh. But there are great looking Haworthiopsis and Tulista species like your H. viscosa that will not be as prone to disintegration in the tropics.

    Or else, you really need that reverse greenhouse I was talking about. Maybe a wine refrigerator! Ventilation will be an issue though. And it isn't exactly environmentally responsible.

  • 9 years ago

    So far air con room at night look like it working for trancata

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks @Pagan!!! I will have to make a chicken wire cover or something.

  • 9 years ago

    Connie, should we limit it to just April, or any April?

    Thanks, Summer Breeze, for the photo.

    Then there's this, thanks to Flavio A.!

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    Cactusmcharris, very nice and high quality H. Look like a mini maze on each leaves.


  • 9 years ago

    Love those white markings, cactusmcharris!


    at the garden store yesterday: was bemoaning the succulent selection when I found the ONLY haworthia there! I think it was a steal for $20!!!

  • 9 years ago
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    One thing I can say about akadama: it talks! When it's dry, it screams it. When the top looks visibly dry, wait one day and it will be dry two inches down.

    This one on the left is another one of those that stays green even two inches from the bulbs (H. turgida var pallidifolia AL). On the right, Haworthia pygmaea var. pygmaea (JDV 8415 AL), turns reddish in about two weeks.

    Ooh, nice clump there, Miniotoro Ranimal.

  • 9 years ago

    Miniotoro - I have the same one and it's clumping like crazy too. No idea what to do with all the offsets!

    Sharing a couple very lovely Haworthia post cards I got from Taiwan this week:

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    These are the guys with cats in their nursery, right? The cards are very elegant.

  • 9 years ago

    Where's the plants that came with the cards?!?!

  • 9 years ago

    New plants in the ICU. Sure hope I haven't forgotten my days as a resident working in the people ICU.


  • 9 years ago

    Wow, Doc, I love those two truncatas!

  • 9 years ago

    Pagan, they are the same one pictured earlier by Conny. Big difference.

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