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Too much wood...Kitchen design advice

9 years ago
My husband and I bought a house a year ago and are know finally able to get some projects done. We are wanting to have character grade white oak floors put in throughout the house. My dilemma is that in the kitchen it's going to be too much of the same wood tone. I've found the right pro to come in and refinish the cabinets in white (if you think that's what's needed). I also am eyeing a lighter granite (any suggestions?). My question is what should I do about the backsplash area.. do I continue with a granite 3-4" backsplash and keep the glass tile or remove he glass tile and do something else? The whole house has light colors (greens and blue...beachy seaglass tones) and I want to keep that consistent but I also don't have a huge budget and don't want to overspend for our area. Also.. currently there is sheet vinyl flooring (I know terrible). How does the change in floor height work with cabinets that are already installed...Im worried about boxing in the dishwasher specifically...

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  • 9 years ago
    Glass tile feels more modern to me. White cabinets and snow white quartz would look great with it. I know quartz is expensive but it might be doable since you would be keeping the existing backsplash. If your style is more traditional, I would change the backslash and go with granite
  • 9 years ago

    Have the cabinets removed prior to floor installation and then reinstall them on top of the new floor. As far as the backsplash and countertops are concerned, the 3" strip of backsplash really should've been removed before adding the glass, so if you get new granite, you should also redo the backsplash.

  • 9 years ago
    @sammy. The previous owner had the builder put in laminate countertops that have the built-in backsplash and then glass tiles above it all at the same time. As far as removing cabinets and reinstalling... how easy is that to do without damage? Thanks for all of your advice
  • 9 years ago

    Before you remove the cabinets, just check to see if the dishwasher will fit. I had a vinyl floor removed and replaced with hardwood in the kitchen and there was still room for the dishwasher. Just check ahead of time.

    I have wood cabinets with hardwood flooring and I am fine with it. If you prefer a white kitchen, that is fine, but lots of wood kitchens have similar wood floors. I have a light quartz countertop with a cream subway tile backsplash. I also had a Kohler Whitehaven "short apron" style farmhouse sink installed. I really love it. The "short apron" style can be installed on a standard sink base and is just as deep inside as the "tall apron" style.

    My kitchen:

    https://www.houzz.com/photos/my-pics-work-in-progress-phvw-vp~58830325

  • 9 years ago

    Hi Katie, I agree you've got a lot of wood going on here. And for a beach-themed home, that probably seems especially off. I like the idea of refinishing the cabinets with white. And I'm glad you're having a pro do it because I've heard (I haven't done it myself) that refinishing cabinets can we done well or poorly if you don't know what you're doing. If you redo the counter, be sure to update the backsplash, as the current backsplash likely won't match up quite right. You've got quite a bit of questions. To make sure you're pleased with the end result, have you considered collaborating with an interior designer? It's pretty easy to do online these days with platforms like Stuccco. I've found when there's a lot of moving parts, and the space is important, it's well worth investing a bit up front.

  • 9 years ago
    @jhmarie Thanks for the feedback about your change in flooring height... I was hoping to hear that kind of good news! I've been eyeing that same sink! How long have you had it? Thanks again!
  • 9 years ago

    I think the top of the island is the biggest issue. If it had a different top, you might not think it was too much wood. What does the contractor say about removing cabinets to put in hardwood flooring, is this a standard or do most people bring the wood up to the cabinets?

  • 9 years ago

    I have had my sink almost one year. Still looks like new, but I am reasonably careful - not obsessive, but I don't throw my heavy pots into it:)

    I had a cast iron sink for 18 years previous to the Whitehaven and it held up great. It wasn't all shiny after 18 years, but it cleaned up easily, nice and bright white and no chips - I just moved it to the basement kitchenette. I am hoping the Whitehaven does as well.

  • 9 years ago
    @shirlpp The flooring estimator is coming out next week to measure. I wanted to get more than one opinion, as I'm sure it's in their best interest for me to rip the cabinets up and give more square footage. What I'm afraid of is opening a can of worms with removing the cabinets and then reinstalling. The cabinets are in great shape (only a few years old) and I don't have it in my budget (yet) to completely replace them. I hadn't thought of the island top being distracting but now I can totally see that! Thanks for the invite
  • 9 years ago
    @jhmarie Do you have any sort of rack in the bottom?
  • 9 years ago

    Katie, I had the same experience as jhmarie and did not need cabinets moved when switching from vinyl to hardwood. . You will need to decide about a finishing detail. We had quarter-round installed in the kitchen and cove moulding in other rooms and it all looks good.

  • 9 years ago
    @sharonajj Great news! I'd much rather quarter round then damaging cabinets. Thanks for sharing!
  • 9 years ago

    I do not have the rack. Some do and love it, some hate it because stuff gets caught in it. I thought I would get one later if I was having problems with scratching, but since I am not, I haven't got one.

    Here is a recent discussion:

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/these-sink-grids-are-killing-me-do-you-use-these-dsvw-vd~4219978?n=22

  • 9 years ago

    I just bought the racks to protect my fireclay sink. I've had it for 1.5 years & just noticed two small dings/chips. This sink needs to last a long time, so I'm giving the racks a try. :)

  • 9 years ago

    you might like your kitchen cabinets more with stainless appliances... look at your photos... block the black stove and dw with your hand.... do you like the stainless fridge side more?

    no need to rush out and replace the black but when they die, maybe transition to stainless?

  • 9 years ago
    @nnigrt Yes I definitely am planning on switching over... the black stands out like a sore thumb! The problem with waiting until they die is that they are pretty new (only a few years old). I really want to convert to gas for the stove and that I'm sure will be pricey so that needs to stay for now but definitely the dishwasher (which is a base model piece of junk anyways) and microwave which is relatively inexpensive will be changed over. That definitely will soften the look... thanks for sharing! I'm sure this will be more obvious with white cabinets
  • 9 years ago

    ah, patience then. at least the fridge is stainless. black fridges look like the monoliths from the 2001: space odyssey movies.

  • 9 years ago

    [as a child, youngest in family - they took me to see it, it scared me...boo]

  • 9 years ago

    I think a new counter on your island and new hardware will look great. I would wait to paint your cabinets if they are only a couple years old.

  • 9 years ago
    @dhadley444 Thanks for feedback. Do you think I should use the same countertop for the island as the rest of the kitchen? Do you think I should replace current backsplash or keep it and have the granite supplies put in a 3-4" backsplash to match the height of what's there now?
  • 9 years ago
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    A lot depends on your budget. It would look best to not have the short splash. Sometimes the old backsplash gets damage when the countertop is removed. The current backsplash tiles do look pretty with your cabinets. There isn't an extra box of them laying around is there?

    You might want to keep in the back of your mind the thought of moving the microwave and putting in a stainless hood. The problem then is fining a new home for the microwave, though a cabinet might be retrofitted with a micro shelf. You can stain (or paint if you paint) a wood hood to match, but that can get pricy:


  • 9 years ago

    The trend now seems to be two different counters, but I prefer the same. I would remove the 3 to 4 inch piece of backsplash and just do a new backsplash all the way down to the counter. I agree with jhmarie about the range hood if feasible. Even though I prefer a range hood I actually have my microwave over my range for two reasons. #1- I couldn't decide where else to put it and #2-my budget did not allow it!! I learned to decide what was most important & spent accordingly.

  • 9 years ago
    @jhmarie I spoke with a family member of mine (who unfortunately lives too far away to do the work) who does tile and he said chances are if we put the same tile the chances of it lining up correctly on the bottom to make it look cohesive would be slim to none.. so continuing the same tile is out I think..
  • 9 years ago
    @dhadley444 Thanks for your feedback! Unfortunately I'm going to have to wait on switching over to gas as we are forking out a lot of our budget to hardwood floors. So the hood and the gas range will have to wait unfortunately. But what I have learned is to save the tile when we do the new backsplash so when we do change over to a hood we have tile to use I need be. Thanks!
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