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What's with the mango's ?

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

How are the many Florida mango " plantations " out there doing ? ( smile )
Just in from a close up look at my 4 trees and am shocked ! Here it is mid April and it's almost like a plague on every tree. OK, the 20 ft tall, 8 yr old Kent is barren, like I was expecting,..two vigorous back-to-back prunings, - I expected nothing else. But my " old reliable " 22 ft tall Glenn is looking like someone took a shotgun to it ! Mostly a plethora of bare, pale yellow panicle strips waving in the air. This heavy producer, now with barely 100 olive sized green fruits hanging on for dear life,...will be lucky to harvest 30 or 40 of them it looks like now!
And the Glenn is doing way better than the 12 ft tall Tebow and Carrie trees,..both in sad shape for this time of year !.
I have fertilized ea tree as in the past. Am assuming this rain drought we are enduring here in SW Florida is the major culprit, but not 100 % sure. Still curious how the rest of Florida is doing.
One final note,..I have been keenly interested in the half dozen or so 50 + ft giants out there on other nearby homesites that I,..er, briefly visited in the past when my trees were babies, and I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE MANGO ON ANY OF THEM,..NONE !!!
Sooo, hereabouts the outlook is grim,..will be interested in how other GW'ers with mango trees are doing,..you having a good year so far, or a scary one like here ?

Comments (46)

  • 9 years ago

    Joe, I am sure that your mangoes will get better, just be patient..

    Today between me going to the farms, I got a visitor that wanted to see the garden, her fruit trees are older and well established. When she saw my tallest mango that is about 6 ft, she said why it was so small? compare to hers that is 40 +. She told me she had fewer mangoes this season. I have 3 varieties and the one that had the most mangoes is the young one Rosigold but because it is so young I took the fruits out.

    Let's see how the season progresses, hope that we all get mangoes.

    Silvia

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked whgille
  • 9 years ago

    I don't have any mangoes but my neighbor does and the small mangoes are fall off and he has irrigation on all of his.

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked Glenn Jones(9b)
  • 9 years ago

    Mine didn't even flower this year. It's starting to flush with new.... leaves. So no fruit this year I guess :(

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked oldmangroot
  • 9 years ago

    Some of the trees in the yards out in placida have fruit. I was there today for the art market and noticed the fruit. I have a mango tree in my yard up til last year it had never fruited, i din't even know it was a mango tree then last year it fruited. I didn't get any of the fruit as some other beastie did.

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked Pea
  • 9 years ago

    I have 4 inground mango trees out of 5 that have fruits on them...one never bloomed this year but its only 3 years old I think? All the mangoes are still very small pea size and many of these are destined to fall off ( Mother nature thins them out) a lot before they mature :o(

    And my Lychee tree is loaded this year :o)...But the squirrels eat about 80% of them!








    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked puglvr1
  • 9 years ago
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    Thanks guys for the incisive comments. Puglvr's fruits look a lot like what I am dealing with here,..have a half dozen " big guys " on ea tree, but mostly "olive sized " fruits that drop to the ground easily. This is unusual for me here in 10a,..normally the mangos are almost apple sized by now and they don't fall off easily !
    I was up early this morning, and immediately went out back giving all four mango trees " The Mother of All Waterings/ Fertilizing ! " Now at least my conscience is clear ! lol
    Those four guys are on their own now,..I've done the 110% TLC thing,.. will now just cross my fingers and wait.
    One item I forgot to mention yesterday,..in describing this disappointing season ( so far ) I left out the high winds we have been getting here since January,... them plus the brutal heat, topped off with no rain,..YIKES !,..talk about " one, two, three strikes and you're out ! " ( smile )
    Taking all three into account, I think I'd be surprised if I had a typical bonanza crop out there.
    Since I relocated to South Florida, ( where the weather suits my clothes ), in 1992, it took until 2000 ( when I retired ), to try my hand at seriously growing bananas and mangos. During that time I have learned not to get uppity with three types of people: Sheriffs Deputies, Bartenders and Mother Nature ! lol
    " Mommy Dearest, I am very happy, - thrilled, at the hordes of delicious fruits you have graciously bestowed upon me these many years. If you so decide to twist my ear and slap me once in awhile, I am still deeply indebted to you. No hard feelings here, - just a sincere THANK YOU ! "
    I hope Silvia is right, but if not, I am cool with an " off year ",...once in awhile ! ( smile )

  • 9 years ago
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    A few pics :

    The Glenn,..largest tree.

    Lots of bare panicles....

    A few exceptions...

    Typical anemic scatterings...

  • 9 years ago

    Great pics Jofus!! My Glenn has very few mangoes set this year...mostly new growths over the last few months sadly. Too bad since Glenn is one of my favs :o)...

    All we can do now is let Mother nature take the lead lol..not much more we can do at this point but hope for the best!

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked puglvr1
  • 9 years ago

    I have nothing! Bare panicles.

    Mine flowered during the cool weather. What I noticed was an absence of bees. I did not see any pollinators around my tree.

    My lemon and orange trees flowered around the same time and they are full of small fruit.

    I lost the few to raccoons last year and now it appears not one fruit on the tree.

    Jane

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  • 9 years ago

    Very sorry to hear that Jane :o(...they do sometimes skip a year but that doesn't make it less disappointing. Its definitely been a strange season for mango this year. My trees are at least 4-6 weeks behind from previous years. Will see how it compares to the last few years. The above normal weather we experienced seem to have had negative affects on the blooming cycle.

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked puglvr1
  • 9 years ago

    I have an enormous mango tree that was planted around 1972 by the previous owners of the house. While I get plenty of mangoes each year, it seems like every other year I get a bumper crop. It seems like this year will be an "off" year. The first fruit always falls and then the second fruit is the one that grows and ripens. My fruit is delicious, but I don't know the variety.

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked bellagirl0614
  • 9 years ago

    bella,..any chance you can post a photo or two ? Us "experts " may be able to provide a guess,..or two ! ( smile )l

  • 9 years ago

    I have about 8 trees planted. Usually the Glenn and Keitt are heavy producers, not this year. The Glenn I can understand, because my brother trimmed it last year. However, the Keitt we didn't, and this has been the 2nd time in 15 years, it hasn't produced. I'm getting some from the Carrie, just about 2 small branches of the Gold Nugget, which might be none at the end, the top portion of the Valencia Pride, which is my favorite, and only about 1 branch on the Keitt. My mom says, that in order for a mango tree to flower, it needs a cold scare. We didn't have that much cold here in Miami, FL this year. Another thing, if you go by Homestead FL, all the mango growers, keep there trees on the smaller size for harvest. If you have a 40' tree, and the mango falls, it's going to get ruin. You need to be able to get the fruit without it splashing in the ground.

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked ily68
  • 9 years ago

    bellagirl0614, do post pictures of the fruit if you have any. You can also go on line at Pine Island Nursery, http://tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/index.shtml. They have a lot of mangos with pictures and information about them.

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked ily68
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    9 years ago

    Very interesting topic for me. For the first time ever I'm having flowers on some of my young mangoes. This week we had a drastic temp fall cold snap and immediately I saw lots of flowers falling. My question is, since i am hoping for at least one mango fruit this year, if I cut (I have 3 panicles in one tree) 2 panicles will i have a better chance to have my dreamed fruit?

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked aka1976
  • 9 years ago

    Aka...what part of FL do you live that you had a "drastic temp fall cold snap this week"? Just curious!

    If your trees are young and small I would definitely not let it fruit to maturity. If the tree is less than 3 years old I would wait till the fruits are about grape size and remove the pannicles with the fruits on them, they snap off the tips very easily...but that's just my opinion and if it were my trees :o)

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked puglvr1
  • 9 years ago

    Maybe he's in Australia? Looks like spring outside my window.

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked amberroses
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    9 years ago

    Sorry for late pug, I am in the Mediterranean Albania, Tirana. The trees are a little less than 3 years old and as you said I am going to snip the flowers off when their fruit reaches peasize, but was wondering in the meantime if I could experiment with letting a panicle at least fruit.

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked aka1976
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  • 9 years ago

    Hi AKA...its totally up to you...if you wan to see "if" you can get one to fruit. But in my experience the tree usually knows best on its own if it can handle it. Most of the time the tree drops fruits on its own without our help lol...Best of luck!!

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked puglvr1
  • 9 years ago
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    Hey, just had to report on my latest foray early this morning to inspect my three fruit bearing mango trees that were not doing so well just two weeks ago ! Good news,..most of those little olive sized, fragile looking fruits I photographed back then are now looking much better ! All seem healthy and robust and 7 - 10 times larger ! Have to believe the two intense fertilizing and watering treatments they got helped to turn the tide !
    A few pics showing how the tiny guys have revived. Mother Nature has once again smiled my way !
    It won't be a record breaking harvest in June for sure, - but will be enough to satisfy me and the half dozen or so friends who much prefer these guys to the store bought mango's !


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    9 years ago

    Referring to puglvr' s above post:"Hi AKA...its totally up to you",

    I am noticing that my mango baby fruits are not growing at all,. It's been 3 weeks and fruits look still almost microscopic. Does this mean they are going to dry all?


    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked aka1976
  • 9 years ago

    Awesome Jofus!!! They are really doing so well, great job!

    Aka...just my opinion but if the fruits have not changed or grown in 3 weeks, there's probably a pretty good chance they are not going to make it...But your trees are young and small so its best to let the energy go into growing the tree :o) ...the tree knows best and will drop the fruits if it can't handle it.

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked puglvr1
  • 9 years ago
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    Thanks guys for the comments.
    Glenn ; I am retired and thoroughly enjoy the challenge and work involved ( good exercise besides swimming in the parks' big pool ) in getting the most out of these four ( 6 - 9 yr old ) trees. The Kent, my favorite tasting mango of them all, is getting this year off due to two aggressive prunings in two successive years, but next year it needs to " step up to the plate " ! If it does, WATCH OUT ! I may have to export some mangos to Belize & Honduras !!! lol
    puglvr ; As Silvia predicted, these 3 producing trees did indeed come back to life, - just as I was about to give up on them, - but only after an aggressive shove ! A pleasant surprise for sure ! So how are your trees doing so far ?

  • 9 years ago

    My trees are doing pretty good...some better than others this year. Glenn is only fruiting on about 1/4 of the tree ( just random sections have fruits) the rest is new growth. The size slowly increasing they are smaller than golf ball size. My fruits are a little behind yours by a few weeks I think. I have 2 Cogshall, one has a lot more fruits than the other. My Keitt has a small amount of fruits on the tree. Keitt fruits can get large and its a very late variety (late Sept.early Oct), so a few of them should be okay, the tree isn't very big ( location is not that great) gets more shade than sun and its too late to move it Lol...

    Last is my potted Glenn...I pugged it this year ( no blooms this year)...so its taking a year off.

    If you ever get more than you can handle...Please LMK...I'm only an hour and half from you...would love to buy some from you :o) thanks!!!

    I'll post pics in a few weeks when the fruits are larger like yours...

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked puglvr1
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    puglvr ; Would be happy to give you the mangos, no need to pay me anything. That'll have to wait at least another 13 months however, assuming 2018 is a good year,..like the one's I got used to a few years ago ! ( smile )

  • 9 years ago

    My tree is loaded her in 10b. It had a lot of fruit drop but there's still plenty. Here's to a good mango season!

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked Halfway There
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    halfwaythere1 ; Great to hear of someone else who is having a decent year. Just curious, where exactly in Florida is your tree located ? What kind is it ?

  • 9 years ago

    I would also like to know which one it is?

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked ily68
  • 9 years ago

    Halfway...we all would love to see a picture or two of your tree :o)

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked puglvr1
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    So we had 3" of glorious rain last night! I can't remember the last time we've had that much rain in so long. The trees, plants and grass look so happy like I was Lol...

    Was going to wait to post pics when the fruits were bigger but the rain changed my mind so I Snapped a few photos of my mango and lychee...

    Lychee...

    Cogshall

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  • 9 years ago
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    Rain ? What's that ? Confused,..and dry as a bone here in Englewood.

    Just in from watering my girlfriend's butterfly/hummingbird garden !!! Huff,..puff,..wheeze,...

    Rain ? Pug, ya sure ???? Hmmmm, will have to google that,...have a faint recollection,...lol

    Will have to put my foot down,..NO MORE BUTTERFLY PLANTS !!!

    Boy, what a relief it will be to be able to get back to my bananas and mango trees !!! lol

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    Great pics pug !!! That last photo looks like a tree that is coming along nicely. as mine are ! What type is that last tree ?

  • 9 years ago

    I know exactly what you mean...believe me when I say I have been disappointed many times when I see high chances of rain only to get not one single drop...usually it misses my house! I was SO elated when I see it coming down in buckets and when I say 3" in my rain gauge, Wow!! Fingers crossed you guys get some also...

    I'm sure she appreciates you taking such good care of her butterfly plants...watering this time of year is brutal! My husband had to do that for a few weeks while I was in CA visiting family...he was glad to see me come back Lol...He's not a plant person normally...

    The last 2 pics are my Cogshall...as you can see this tree has a lot more mango fruits than my Glenn.

    Here's a couple of pics of my Glenn mango tree...very few fruits this year :o(

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked puglvr1
  • 9 years ago

    I'm in Cooper City, FL about 11 miles inland from the beach in the Ft. Lauderdale area. I'm guessing the tree is over 30 ft high with an equal spread. For reference, that fence is 7 ft high and the house is about 25 ft at it's highest point. I went on the property appraisers site to look at old pics of our home and they only go back to 1999. The tree was there in '99! It's a very mature tree and really produces. I kind of counted last year by estimating how many boxes we gave away and came up with around 500 mangos. She will be hard pruned after this harvest because the neighbors are complaining about the overhang and the mess, so I probably won't get much in the next 2 years. They are not "mango people" GASP! Does anyone care to guess which type I have? The fruit is not "stringy" when you eat it. It's like a ripe peach, so delicious.

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked Halfway There
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    oops pics...

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    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked Halfway There
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    by the picture and your description "The fruit is not "stringy" when you eat it. It's like a ripe peach, so delicious."

    It sounds like it might be Glenn? My second guess is a Kent...they are really delicious also but I think they are a little later variety...July-Aug I believe.

    Here's some of my Glenn pics at about your size ( taken from last years crop) mine are much, much smaller than yours right now...

    Below is a link I found on the internet...pictures of Kent mango from (left) most green to ripest far (right)...Look and see if these could be yours? If you have more than you can eat...Love to take some of your hands Lol...

    http://www.mangomaven.com/kents-and-more-kents/

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked puglvr1
  • 9 years ago

    So Kent stays green? Mine get that very blush color, I was looking at pics from last year and we were harvesting in June-July and the neighbor's Royal Poinciana was in full bloom, which it is not now. I think we just got early fruit this year. I wonder why. We had a dry spell but we do every year and I run the sprinklers anyway (free from the lake).

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked Halfway There
  • 9 years ago

    If you look at this site, they have a mango variety viewer, which gives you a lot of information on them. The Kent stays green, but so does the Keitt. It would help to know, when you get the fruit, month. The Keitt is one of the last of the season, if not the last one. Glenn is an early season mango, fruit ripens June to July. Keitt ripens August to October. Kent ripens July to August. Look at the pictures, and try and find the one that looks like yours. I have all 3 of them, and they're all good. The best think about the Keitt, is that you still have fruit when no one else has. Both the Glenn and Keitt are heavy producers, my Kent is not, because it's a lot smaller than the others.

    http://tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/index.shtml

    http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/keitt-mango.shtml




    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked ily68
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    halfwaythere1 ; All I know is, if I had a neighbor like you I would be all smiles every time I bumped into you ! For sure I would be out at that fence with my telescoping fruit picker and hauling in a free bucket or so of fruits that were hanging over my lot !! LOL

    IMHO there is no such thing as a bad tasting mango,..all mango's are scrumptious !

    I am thinking you guys are in " mango heaven " with a tree like that ! I will NEVER see one of my trees that big ! Your neighbors should be thrilled !!! ( smile )

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    I'm with Jofus, what I wouldn't give to have a neighbor like you :o)

    Took a few more pics...mangoes are ever so slowly growing.

    Cogshall

    Glenn

    Halfway, Kent does stay mostly green even when ripe...but the fruits that gets direct sun can sometimes cause the skin to blush/color up...not as much as some of the other varieties however...

    Another guess is Haden...this variety does have a "little" fiber but quite good!

    The Harvest season coincides with yours June-July...

    Haden: Found this on youtube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdulg811NJw

    After catching crows stealing my lychees ( they are not even close to be ripe yet) I googled and found what is suppose to be a "bird deterrent" balloon and "bird away" reflective tape...not sure how long it will last but its been a week and I haven't seen any birds near it. Also used some produce clam shells to keep some of the squirrels away...can't cover them all but if I saved 40% I'm happy Lol...

    jofus, ( Englewood, Fl zone 10a ) thanked puglvr1
  • 9 years ago

    The Haden are ver good. I have a double tree, my brother grafted it with a neighbor. It has manga blanca (a Cuban mango) and the Haden on the other side. It's a small tree, and the Haden part is bigger than the manga blanca part. We had 2 mornings of cooler weather here in Miami this week, it was enough for the Valencia Pride to re flower a bit more. I saw a house about 3 blocks away from mines, that also has a Valencia Pride, and that one, flowered a whole lot more than mines. Maybe because theirs is next to the fence, mines is in between trees. I don't know if I'll get more mangos, but hopping I will.

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