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Need Help with dying leaves or disease?

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

Hey All, until today I noticed that mainly/only on them these photos. They are all brandy boys. They have next to them cherokee purple and early girl which seem fine, just lossing leave underneath. This colorization seems to go half way up the brandy boys now. What is it? What can I do to save them? They are still pumping out tomatoes and have large ones on it. And I used mircle grow water soluable fertilizer last week and poured most of it in all the plants and some on top. thanks in Advanced :) Oh yeah, theya re in miracle grow potting mix, mixed with last years and half new mix. and in 20 gallon fabric pots. It has rained for the past 3 days too.

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  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The first first pic shows a couple of spots that might be Early Blight but most of it is just yellowing from a combination of low nutrients and over-watering - both of which can be difficult to control in containers. But the second picture seems to show many more dead leaves around the base of the plant.

    So my best guess it that it is primarily a nutrient issue with some water issues thrown in. First question would be how often have you been feeding them since planting? Just the once last week? If so that wouldn't be nearly often enough. Container plants need regular feeding at least every 7-10 day as the nutrients run right out of the container for the most part when you water. Many dilute the fertilizer to 1/2 strength and use it more often to try to establish a consistent level of nutrients in the soil for the plant to use.

    Then aside from the 3 days of rain how were you delivering the water, how much to each plant and how often? Are you totally sure the mix was getting well moistened each time rather than just running right through? Radically inconsistent soil moisture levels in containers is very likely the #1 problem folks encounter.

    Try stripping off all the bad foliage so that you can more easily see and evaluate the new growth and set up a regular weekly feeding schedule of 1/2 strength for a couple of weeks to see if it doesn't improve. And do whatever you have to to get the soil moisture levels consistent. That alone is why drip irrigation systems on timers make such a big difference for container plants.

    Dave

  • 9 years ago

    That was a very nice post Dave. Great info.

  • 9 years ago

    Septoria, with some early blight thrown in as well probably. Your plants look a bit crowded in a place without much sun (seems from the picture). Prune some foliage, starting with the affected ones, some stems, improve airflow and direct sun on each plant. Some spraying should be in order as well considering it seems pretty aggressive. Septoria depends a lot from what I've seen on lack of morning sun. Next year a place with only a bit more morning sun could make a big difference.

  • 9 years ago

    I see septoria in there for sure. I have a couple varieties that seem like they pick it up anytime we get prolonged rain.

    Are you treating with fungicide at all? Also - google 'bleach spray tomatoes' for some good reading.

    I have had good results this year battling a bad bout of septoria with a combination of bleach spray and multiple fungicides (some organic, others not).

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks all for the nutrients, I gave it Burpees new organic plant granular food, they. it says feed up to 3 months, I know thats bull lol don't know why I bought it when I used miracle grow water solubale for past 4 years with no problem. I am gona do that every 7-10 days now. But prior to the first feeding, the lady recomended I waited a few weeks for that granular stuff. After I did it didnt see results as much as I did with the MG so I used last years supply and stupidly right before it rained hard for a few days. Gona stick with it. Prior to this my mother nd I wwater them once a day when really hot then every other day or so. Also I remember reading about Fungicide and just ordered last night it. It should be arriving today, got to love thath amazon shipping. Gona take all advice and stripp leaves and all. Thanks again all

  • 9 years ago

    I also see likely septoria but also with some drought/nutrient stress.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    THe fingicide came but no direction on the concentrate does anyone know what it is the ratio to a gallon. Also should I use a spray nozzel or water can and just rub it all in? or so. Picks below, also I put a photo of my plants a week ago and they looked like this. Currently it is in the middle to back on both rows. Thanks again, I am getting ready to clip the effected ones.

  • 9 years ago

    There's a little booklet that you peel off the back which contains the instructions. If not, look for a PDF of the label at the manufacturer's website.

    Use a sprayer and spray all surfaces of the plants including stems and undersides of leaves. You can use a spray bottle, but a cheap, handheld garden sprayer with a wand and angled nozzle that will let you spray upside-down easily to get under the leaves will make the process SO much easier. I have a hand-pumped 1 gallon sprayer, which is not expensive and pretty minimal, and it's still 20x easier than using a spray bottle.

    A watering can definitely doesn't work for this.

    Do not use a garden sprayer that has ever held any kind of weed killer.

  • 9 years ago

    Copper Octanoate. Should be the best copper based spray. You can easily find the instructions online. Note that it is just a preventive, so don't expect miracle results. What would help just as much, as I said, is better spacing, those plants should not touch each other if possible.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    thanks guys, Yeah just saw the directions, very small print, but found itonline as well I think 1.5-2 ounces per gallon. i also ordered a 1 gal spray thing and gona go do the best i can. As for spacing I will try to move them further apart next year, not much room in yard so may just eleminate like 3-4 of them. Only that part of my yard gets light. As for the morning sun, that makes sense now since the back plants get afternoon to late sun and the front get morning sun till about 3ish.. Thanks again.

  • 9 years ago

    Looking good! I am sure they will appreciate the extra airflow. Plus its easier for you to see when the fruits are ready to pick!

    Keep up with the weekly spray and think about hitting them immediately after any significant rainfall (like they deluge you are experiencing now based on your location - it ran through the western part of the state here all last night).

  • 9 years ago

    had more eavy rains for 2 days gona do it today. Also an off thread question, since my tomatoes in the right are the more effected, I am growing stevia herbs and are really close to plant as you can see if photo, should I spray them with fungicide as well, would it hurt them or should I try go get more distance from the tomatoes?