Wow, that's a huge tree! How do you collect the ones on top?

With difficulty. The ones on the top can only be harvested with an extension ladder. So far this year, I have left them for the crows.

Beautiful tree!

Good for you! I'd be happy if my persimmon trees could be 1/3 of your size. I have Ichi Ki Kei Jiro. If Fuyu is hardy enough, I will collect one for zone 5b location next spring. I started collecting fruit trees last winter after reading the posts on this forum. :-)

I have had reasonable success harvesting form the top of 20 foot tall kakis using a fruit picking tool on an extension pole. I twist and pull and it may take a little of the branch with it but hey, I get some of the pruning done then at the same time. That's after I get what I can with a ladder.

If you have a dehydrator, the Fuyus that can't be consumed fresh can be sliced horizontally and dried to make a sweet chewy fruit snack.

Fuyu is not hardy for zone 5. In pfact, it is not hardy for even zone 6. I don't know long your Ichi Ki kei Jiro will last in your zone. Non astringent persimmon is not very hardy.

Thanks for letting me know. I saw Tony's persimmon tree photo, I thought I could do the same. I will grow persimmon in large pots for now, I can store them with rose trees in the garage for the winter months. If I grow them in pots on the deck, I don't have to worry about deer damage. :-) I do have crows at the country property, I might need a net in the future.

If you grow it in pot, you can grow anything if you can shelter it so temp won't go below freezing. For planting in ground, Tony wrap his non-astringents for winter protection.

Just Fruit and Exotic and England Orchard Nursery have a lot of good persimmons. Unfortunately, only American persimmon are cold hardy to zone 5. Asian persimmon, only a few could survive zone 6. Some people may have A. persimmon survive zone 6 by either winter protecting them or have a favorable microclimate. Not all zone 5 are the same. Same things can be said to all other zone, too.

Thanks for the info. My zone 6a location is in a suburb, the yard is full of ash, pine and maple trees plus over 1000 roses. The only place I have for furit trees is in the countryside (zone 5b). The last country house owner left us 11 fruit trees, there are a lot of room for more. The garages are part of a carriage house, there are renters living above the garages, the heat from the apts keeps the insulated garages warm. It's our 1st winter I am not sure if the temp in the garages will be above freezing though. We have a walkout basement at the main house, should I keep the potted persimmon trees in the basement(unseated)? I also have 2 Honey Jar jujube trees, will be planted in the ground this weekend, hopefully this weekend will be dry, no rain.

Next spring I will have 1 Li Jujube, 1 Asian peal, 1 Chinese Hawthorn tree to add to the fruit tree collection. Please let me know if anything I am planning to do is not doable in zone 5b. Thanks

Sorry about the OT questions.

I don't like planting trees this late esp. in zone 5. You take a risk. If the winter is not harsh, the trees will be fine. If winter is harsh, they may not have time to establish even with potted trees.

I overwinter my potted trees in unheated basement. It is in a low - mid 40's. , a bit too warm, in fact. If your garage temp stays above 30, it should be fine.

If needed, you can planted the potted jujube, water well and mulch generously for winter protection.

rphcfb14, thanks for the advice. I will buy 4 bigger pots and some potting soil to get them ready for wintering in the garage. I can plant the potted jujube trees in the spring for safety. Totally new to fruit trees, another learning journey. Fruit and orchard forum has a lot of good people. Thanks again for your help. :-)

Thanks Charlie for this great thread! You have a beautiful persimmon tree! :-)

Summers,

Please google: your favorite persimmon-growing fruit. It will lead you to the best fruit growing site by backyard growers. Many experienced persimmon growers are there.

i cannot give you a site's name because this site won't allow it.

Thanks! Got it! :-)

There are several people there who are working on zone pushing non astringent persimmons. They are very helpful and friendly. Just ask.

Thanks, will do. Reading the posts about persimmons, might get Fuyu, Saijo next spring. :-)

Wow! Mouthwatering harvest indeed!! I would pay to have a box full of this fruit! I love them so much the store bought seem to have a bland flavor. Not sure why!!

My 3 yr old ( 3-5) trees are in the ground for 2 years now and no fruit this year too. How many years does it take to fruit after planting in the ground?

I am hoping to see better harvest in future. Eagerly awaiting !!

Same question from me. Z9a

My tree started fruiting when it was about 3 years old; I got a few fruit. Followed by a year with about 25 fruit; then only about 5; and afterward there has been a geometric increase most years. I plan on a little pruning this year to keep the fruit from hanging low, so I will probably get less fruit next year.

I can’t tell you how much I’m admiring your tree. I fell in love tasting the fruit and decided I had to have it. I’m on my fourth tree, others have perished. This last one has not died, but it hadn’t exactly thrived. We but a raised bed for it. Can you tell me about your soil, climate and how you care for it? It obviously loves your home.

I am half way done picking persimmons, maybe 3 more days. It has been a trip to say the least. I have been looking forward for this every late fall.

I am down to 4 varieties from 12, but topwork a bunch. I like NO-LADDER tree's, 8 feet max.

Bossyvossy - I am in zone 7a so we get winters close to 0 degrees sometimes and snow up to 2 feet occasionally. The summers are not as hot as TX, usually in the high 80s and as high as 100 rarely. It is more humid than much of TX. Our soil is red clay like much of TX. To plant the tree I dug a hole much larger than needed and filled it with good top soil. Grass grows around the tree and I fertilize it 3 times during the growing season with a good fruit commercial fertilizer. I prune the limbs in the late winter to keep a good shape and prevent the fruit from hanging too low to walk under it. The tree is stressed by too much water, too little water, too hot or too cool and it expresses that stress by dropping fruit in June and July. Many people do not recognize the fruit loaded tree. This past summer I was working in my front yard when a couple passed by and the man asked, "Where did you find a pumpkin tree?"

Thank you Charlie. I am learning first hand that the optimal watering is a very fine line. I killed 2 from over- and killed one from underwatering. I have no fertilized. I will next year.

I have heard music can help plants grow faster. Who is going to try on persimmon trees?

Use Indian or Chinese music and make it a cultural thing.

Lol, are you going to give it a try? You'd be famous in your neighborhood. :-)

Just ordered 1 Saijo persimmon tree for next spring. FuYu may not make it here in zone 6a.

How many kinds of FuYu persimmons out there? Which one should I buy? Hana Fuyu, Jiro Fuyu and Matsumoto Wase Fuyu? What's the difference between these 3?

Update: I ordered 1 Matsumoto Wase Fuyu for next spring, thanks to this thread! :-)

Charlie, what kind of FuYu is yours?

I didn’t know there were different fuyus. My present one is MWF

I ordered mine from Burnt Ridge nursery, there are 3 kinds of FuYu there.