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owf1980

New residential construction with some timber framing

8 years ago

New construction

wanting to utilize Timbers from property clearing

would like advise and contacts for local carpenters experienced in timber framing

dry Timbers vs green

Comments (8)

  • 8 years ago

    You need another forum for that kind of advice. And it’s probably not possible at all since you haven’t provided a location. My advice is to ask around among contractors/builders in your own community.

    owf1980 thanked Beth Gazley
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Timbers need to kiln dry for use like you want and you would proably be better off selling the felled timber and buying the proper material for your build. As for timber framed builders you give us no info about where you are , what style of house you want it to be. Timber framing is an art and you will pay top dollar for it.

    owf1980 thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • PRO
    8 years ago
    It will depend on the species as far as green vs kiln dried. I am an owner of a timber frame company and we often work with green timbers, depending on the species. There are times when green is actually preferred. Kiln drying can stabilize the timber to minimize movement, but can make it very difficult to work with in certain species. Some species shrink and twist more than others meaning kiln dried might be better if you want a cleaner/more refined look. If you are going rustic, green may be just fine. If you ar looking to use timber structurally, you will need to look into the engineering requirements. Timbers typically need to be graded by a professional to determine their structural capacity. Depending on the local building department, this may be a requirement to use them for anything beyond decoration. Also, the species will impact how you want the timbers milled. Different species need to be cut in different ways to insure the best finished product. I hope this helps and best of luck.
    owf1980 thanked Steve Tracy
  • 8 years ago

    This home is in Dallas. I hired a contractor to build a gabled roof over a large exterior patio. I was not expecting the beam to have such large cracks on the face of it nor wrapping around the side of it. The beam was installed last week and is rough cedar. It was purchased by the Contractor about a week or so ago. I will call the yard to inquire if it is kiln dried or not. It will be exposed to full sun. I’m surprised the contractor installed it in the first place. It’s running more than two thirds the length of the beam on the exterior side and as shown in the pic above, wide cracks on the end piece.

    owf1980 thanked christinai03
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Google sawmills within ___ miles of (your zip code).

    If none are near, consider asking your local or state county tax and/or county farm extension folks to see if they know any nearby sawmills that saw lumber from property owner's trees for the property owner's use -- sometimes you can get them to do so for a percentage of the lumber. (Late husband and his father and two different brothers in law each had sawmill when younger and would do this for local property owners.)

    Another option for locating a small sawmill that might do this for you could be to talk with your state department of agriculture and/or someone in the agricultural department of your state's university system.

    Another option for locating a small sawmill might be to talk with local building contractors and/or cabinet makers and see if any get their lumber directly from a local sawmill.

    Green lumber and timbers can twist and warp and shrink. You don't want to use it for finished walls or flooring as spaces will form between boards as it dries. Do know someone that put black roofing paper behind the boards and used them anyway because using what he had sawed off his own property was the only materials he could afford for his home rebuild but he did rack and dry them for nearly a year before use. If you look for the spaces, you can see them, some more obvious than others.

    owf1980 thanked suezbell
  • 8 years ago

    According to the lumber yard in which it was purchased from, the beam is not kiln dried and should not be used for structural applications. It’s for cosmetic purposes only.

    owf1980 thanked christinai03
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks for all of the comments/advice. Project is in Johnson City TN and is rustic in design.

    owf1980 thanked oneof4mill