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Sand in Gritty Mix

If you are going to add sand to the gritty mix, is there a limit on what percentage of the mix should be sand? You might do this if - for example - you were raising a plant like a perennial that really likes a moister soil and have a voracious appetite for water. By putting more sand into the soil you have slightly higher water adhesion in the soil, and for a day or so there is more available water for the plant.

At some point however you start to collect too much free-standing water in the soil and you rob the roots of oxygen and growth potential. So I am trying to understand where the balance point is between the desire for more free-standing water and the need to avoid robbing the roots of oxygen.

Comments (11)

  • 8 years ago

    Have you considered changing the ratio of Bark:Turface:Grit? I know it's mentioned on some other threads that you can change it to something like a 3:4:2 or even 3:5:1. I've been experimenting with some different ratios for some of my plants that like a little more water.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked Travis (Central WI 4a-5b)
  • 8 years ago

    Coarse sand is a common ingredient in container media. The percentage rarely exceeds 10%.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked Nil13 usda:10a sunset:21 LA,CA (Mount Wash.)
  • 8 years ago

    @Travis, yes 3:4:2 is my standard gritty mix. I am just noticing that some plants want a bit more water and I'm experimenting around different ideas on who to provide that without going to 511 and potentially providing too much water for a succulent.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    @Nil13 10% is what I remember hearing as well, but do you know of any studies that might document the reasons for that limit?

    One thing I have wondered is won't the sand tend to fall to the bottom of the pot and you will end up having just a bunch of sand and a perched water table down at the bottom?

  • 8 years ago

    I think the main limit of 10% ,for nurseries, is weight, tbh.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked Nil13 usda:10a sunset:21 LA,CA (Mount Wash.)
  • 8 years ago

    Westes: Strange that you are having problem with 3:4:2 (bark:turface:grit I presume) for a succulent. What kind of succulent is it? I have limited variety and I either use 1:1:1 gritty and for cactus I get rid of the bark too. You can try 2:3:1 and that will up the water retention. I use that for some tropicals.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked tropicofcancer (6b SW-PA)
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    @tropicofcancer, for example, this String of Pearls seems to want more water.

    What is the mix you are using for cactus? I am having problems with all of my Euphorbias in gritty mix getting root rot, when left outside during Winter.

  • 8 years ago

    @Westes have you thought of substituting a calcined diatomaceous earth for the Turface? It's supposed to be able to hold more water. I have a string of pearls I transplanted to 3:4:2 with DE and it's growing very well now. Although, I'm sure our climates are quite different.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked Travis (Central WI 4a-5b)
  • 8 years ago

    @Travis Diatomaceous Earth will not hold up as well over time. I really want to avoid a need to constantly repot.

  • 8 years ago

    For cactus I use 1:1 grit to turface. In winter I bring my succulents indoors and they spend the winter under lights next to a window. And I water maybe every 1-4 weeks. I water P. afra every week or so, Jades and other succulents every 2 weeks or so. If you protect your succulents during winter month from rain may be you can prevent root rot more easily.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked tropicofcancer (6b SW-PA)
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