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slide in range does not fit, what are my options?

8 years ago
Almost finished our kitchen remodel and have run into an unforeseen problem. Our slide-in range does not fit in its place. The back end of the range does not slide under the 3 cm countertop. Per the manufacturer specs (GE), this should work, but even after removing the adjustable feet from the range to get to its lowest point, it does not. The installer saw our stove when he took the measurements. We don’t know what to do now? We have asked if the back piece of granite can be removed, and were told that it would be a messy job. Below are some pics of the situation?

Comments (47)

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    Your contractor needs to have the slab refabricated or adjusted to fit your range.
  • 8 years ago

    Is it a slab or cab issue?

  • 8 years ago
    We can slide the range into the space but not all the way back. The back end of the range has a cut out which is like 3 1/4” in height and it can’t go under the back piece of granite. That back piece of granite is epoxied to the slabs on the left and right of the stove. We think that back piece needs to removed but our concern is what damage that could cause to the larger slabs.
  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I'd have that back piece out in 5 minutes with a grinder on a vacuum. There will be no cracked stone. Relax, please.

    You may not want it removed completely, just ripped enough that the range will fit. That would be 10 minutes with a Festool rail saw with a vacuum. No breaky.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    That was my understanding, the range is above the granite, not below it for cleaning purposes.





  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    the installer saw the stove or the fabricator saw the stove? if the stove was made available to them while they made the template, then they are responsible to cutting it to fit.

    I also thought the range top should be above the side granite.

    Call your fabricator/installer and have them fix it. as Jospeh said, not a big deal. it can be cut away from the main slab w/out any damage.

  • 8 years ago

    Maybe the range should be raised to slide on top of the granite - not lowered.

  • 8 years ago

    Cant see from the pictures what the problem is.

    It may be a floor issue.

  • 8 years ago
    That’s not a true slide in it’s a freestanding front control. It is made to go to the wall with no counter behind it.
  • PRO
    8 years ago
    I don’t understand why you left a piece of granite at the back.It is a slide in range not a drop in.piece can be remove easily
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    It's not a big deal. Just call the installer back.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    If it’s a slide-in range, it needs that countertop behind it, because it’s not as deep as a regular cabinet. If it’s a freestanding range with front controls, it doesn’t need the countertop, because it’s the same depth as a cabinet. And I’m a bit surprised by how many “pros” are commenting here that don’t seem to know the difference.

    Which is it?

  • 8 years ago

    Looking closely at the second photo, there appears to be a projection on the back of the stove.

    Is that projection preventing the range from sliding into place? Is the counter top too thick?

    The current GE models all appear to have a small raised oven vent across the back of the stove. Not seeing that on your model? Is this a separate piece that needs to be installed?

  • 8 years ago
    This happened to my parents when they purchased a new stove. They contacted the company who sold them their granite. The company sent the installers who cut an inch of the granite so the range would fit the space.
    N M thanked AC LB
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    N M:


    Measure the distance from the front of the cabinet to the rear of the cutout. It is to be 23 3/16" according to the manufacturer; page 4, please. Your rear strip appears to be about 2" wide when it should be 13/16". If you remove it completely, you'll have a gap; rip it, please.

  • 8 years ago
    What is the name of your granite please, it is beautiful?
    N M thanked Kath
  • 8 years ago

    I have a similar slide in and according to the installation instructions, the top is supposed to sit slightly above the granite (not below, not directly on top). Are you sure yours is supposed to fit under?

    N M thanked Sue 430
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I have never seen a slide in range that went under the counter how would you ever clean up a spill it makes no sense.

    N M thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I'm sorry for the confusion but the glass cooktop part of the slide-in range does NOT go below the countertop. However, the back end of the range, beyond the glass cooktop, per this particular GE Model (PCS940SF4SS), is intended to (according to my understanding of its manual). The back part of the range is about 3.175 cm (1.25") beneath the cooktop and projects further out than the glass cooktop. It is this back part of the range that is catching on the small strip of 3 cm (1.18") thick granite behind the range.

    I've attached some more pictures in the post below to illustrate the problem a bit better.

    "The instruction manual states that if the thickness of the countertop is higher than 3 cm (1.18") make the cutout up to the wall" and notes that all electric slide-in ranges come with a filler strip. I cannot locate the filler strip, which I'm assuming would fill in the gap in cases where the granite is too thick.

    I measured the thickness of the granite and it is exactly 3 cm (1.18"), so I would think that the range should fit. I've removed the feet on the range, and a bolt on top of the rear plate and it still does not work. The countertop and the cabinets are level. Maybe the floor in the area where the range sits isn't (??) and that's what is causing all this grief.

    Right now, the range is sticking out 1.5" beyond where it should be. I can't push it in any further due to the back catching on the bottom of the back strip of granite.

  • 8 years ago
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  • PRO
    8 years ago

    A word of caution when thinking about removing the back piece of granite; by looks of your range, there is a point at the front of the range where a lip on the sides comes to rest against the edge of countertop. That is why you have a depth distance shown in the specs. The range will not move any further back once front edge/lip of it hits the front edge of the countertop.


    It sounds to me that the back of the range, for what ever reason, does not have the 3cm clearance it's supposed to. Have you check that distance?

    N M thanked Design Loft Bracebridge
  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Is there a support under the back piece? If so, is the thickness preventing the range from being pushed in further?

    I also see that your top is raised up above the top quite a bit. It needs to slide in with the top of the range almost touching the granite.

    N M thanked Design Loft Bracebridge
  • 8 years ago

    The front edge/lip is 1.5" from the edge of the countertop. I understand that if the back piece of granite is removed that there will be a gap. From my reading of the manual, when this happens, there is a gap filler that can be installed.

    The dip in the back is slightly greater than 3 cm, but the problem is that I cannot lower the range any further down.

    You're right that I need to measure the cutout when I get home. I wasn't around when the granite installer did his measurements and performed the installation so I'm paying for the absence now. I am thinking that it's either the floor or the range that is the root cause of this mess. I am noticing now that the craftmanship on the stove is not the best. Some screws are in all crooked. I was told by GE customer service that any "fit" defects are cosmetic defects and are not covered under warranty.

  • 8 years ago

    @Kath - the granite is "silver forest".

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I see.

    Check the distance from floor up to countertop. If you have a high spot there, that would make sense. If so, it should have been caught during installation of cabinetry. Normally you wouldn't notice a difference with a standard range. Add the Slide-in into the equation and now that height distance is critical. Good luck if it's that. Not an easy fix now that the countertop is on.

  • 8 years ago
    GE is currently offering a $300 rebate for any repairs/alterations needed to install their slide in ranges. You might qualify for it (i haven’t read the fine print) if you find you have to
    Come out of pocket for any of this!
  • 8 years ago
    Here’s the fit guarantee... not sure if it qualifies with remodels though. But worth considering.
  • 8 years ago

    You’re missing the range trim piece. And the stone should not be there. The range goes to the wall with the trim piece.

  • 8 years ago

    Shouldn't the back of this stove sit above the back counter piece? So put the feet back on and see if it fits above the counter piece.

  • 8 years ago

    Is the piece that's preventing it from sliding in the GE filler strip that is supposed to be removed if not needed? Maybe they attach it to the range for shipping. Is it screwed on?

    My GE glass range top sits on top of the filler strip that my fabricator installed. It slides in and over the counter.

  • 8 years ago
    Well, while I was off at work. My wife with the stone installers help was able to get the oven pushed in but it took some mods. We removed some rubber fixed feet and put our own spacers in between. Now it looks like this below:

    I never got to measure the cutout though.
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Bravo! Or maybe Brava.

    N M thanked latifolia
  • 8 years ago
    The same thing happened when our granite was installed and the installers came back to our house and grinded it back 1/4 of an inch. It didn't take long at all and it fits beautifully now
  • 8 years ago

    Your counters are beautiful

  • 8 years ago

    NM looks good. what do you plan on using for your backsplash?

    what is the name of your countertop?

  • 8 years ago

    1. From your side photo, the range was too high. It needed to come down a bit more.

    2. On that same page, the depth of the cutout should have been 23 3/8".

    3. the width of the piece in the back depends on the depth of the counter top. If the counter top is 25", that strip should only be 1.5" wide (or 1 5/8").

    4. It's not clear from the pictures if this thing is fully back as far as it should go, but if you're happy with it, that's all that counts.

  • 8 years ago

    The plastic caps in the front will be flush against the countertop edge if the positioning is correct.

  • 8 years ago
    Turned out vey nice. Kitchen looks great. Cook some eggs for all the know it alls that Don't......
  • 8 years ago
    We would have to cut the stone to get it back any further and were advised that it could get very dusty.

    I never got a chance to figure out what was off. We had given the range specs to our cabinet maker and assumed it was all good until after countertops were put in.

    I think it’s the best we can do and doesn’t look too bad.
  • 8 years ago

    Well, you would look right up there at the front where the counter top ends against the unit. It should be tight towards the front, no gap there.

    You cant see from the pictures because it is black on black.

    It still looks like it is a little high. That is, there's a gap between the glass and the counter top surface. There should be none.

  • 8 years ago
    While it looks very nice, I think the granite installers could have done a little bit better. We purchased almost the exact GE slide in range to replace a drop in cook top. In our case the granite that needed to be cut was the 2 inches across the front of counter. Even though the granite was installed a few years ago, the same installers came back and cut it for us. They also shaved enough off the back side so it could slide in far enough so that it fits into that front plastic piece perfectly. Don’t worry about dust. Good installers have the equipment to vacuum in the dust while cutting, before it goes everywhere else.
  • 8 years ago
    Yeah there’s a bit of a gap but I can’t fix that now, and lowering it anymore is impossible. This was such a pain in the butt lol
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    "We would have to cut the stone to get it back any further and were advised that it could get very dusty."


    My advice above is much better than the advice you've been given elsewhere. A Festool rail saw leaves virtually no dust.

  • 8 years ago

    Those Festool things are amazing at reducing dust problems. Even if your guys don’t have them (professionals all do), a bit of dust will soon be forgotten for a perfect job. The fact that your guys are discouraging you says a lot.

  • 6 years ago

    NM - nice kitchen makeover. What's the model of your new slide-in range? I'm in the market would like to have one with the lip over the edge, like yours. I see them available by Frigidaire and Bosch, but no other brands. Thank you.

  • 5 years ago

    Samsung has the slide in with the extended edges.


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