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Casement vs vertical slider window efficiency

7 years ago

I have been researching this for hours online and I keep seeing "Casement windows are more efficient than sliders" but I get the feeling that this is mostly just being regurgitated by sales people who clearly have an interest in selling you more expensive casements or by those who also say things like "That is the way we always do things..."

I find one or two reputable reviewers (like Consumer reports) who say casement are better but nobody says how much better. They all talk about the sliders not air sealing as well but how much of a problem is this for a normal house in location that is not blasted with arctic winds? We are on Vancouver Island BC so similar to Seattle or Portland.

I also get the feeling that perhaps older sliders had terrible seals and now handyman types have that in their heads and just keep repeating it when actually modern sliders do a pretty good job.


Does anyone know of any data that might say for example something like: for a 2000sqft home, if your forced air gas heating costs were $200/month with sliders, they would be $190 with casements?

That would make the decision a simple math problem.


Visually and functionally I would be happy with either style though probably lean towards the speed of sliders - no fuss, grab the latch and open quickly to exactly where you want. No unlocking, move to the handle, crank, crank, crank - aaagh slow.


If you have any opinions regarding energy efficiency that you can back up with data or your own experience then I'd love to hear about it.


-Dennis

Comments (9)

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    we are getting ready for such a project. in 2008 replaced half the house w Marvin Infinity . Used casements and sliders both.[different areas and usage on the house]. Truthfully, I really like the sliders and when closed up for the winter had no draft and they were quiet. You can nudge them open just an inch or two. Casement panel pivots the entire panel out when you crank even a bit...the casement window was chosen for the looks in the configuration of the spots I placed it …..but the cupping of the air in through the casement and the panel pivoting out , VS. just a "crack" open of a slider is a factor. Do not feel that a better or best slider, say in fiberglass or wood w fiberglass exterior will be a sub par window. An issue is getting the correct function/ sizing/opening features for the spot you are putting it. Fiberglass can be made into any size but is generally going to be better than vinyl . Marvin just redid their window series and added" Marvin Modern"....Now I have the second half of house and looking again but may use Marvin Integrity, which is fiberglass but I won't be doing gelstain on all windows like I did with Infinity. I think Marvin is a good window...we like the sliders. I just spent a few hours on the FENESTRATION website this week.....if you take two windows..say Casement vs Slider...the differences are not that great.....but the material may be a factor: fiberglass interior and exterior in a very good window may be better than some alum clad windows it appears.... [any aluminum or fiberglass exterior can be painted later-vinyl can not] the BIG difference comes w Argon and Low E ...should be standard [and look for the lowest U rating in your product search] Krypton, triple panes of glass, laminated glass, sound glass are all extra things depending on what needs you have. Good luck.

    Dennis thanked herbflavor
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    There are fundamental differences in the closure interfaces that make the average casement more airtight than the average slider. It is just a function of design. Given that fact and assuming similar glass packages, the casement WILL be more efficient. Enough so to justify the delta mostly depends on the application and what you are going for.


    It, however, is not poppycock that sales people are "selling" you that casements are more efficient (on the average).

    Dennis thanked Windows on Washington Ltd
  • 7 years ago

    Every layer over the window also adds an R value.....many people are Not..but I AM a window treatment person.....I have layered window treatments...blinds or shades with fabric panels. We live in a slightly urban place....some thinner layers for privacy, then thicker layers to pull for blackout at nite or when complete block is desired for other reasons. this can be part of your scheme as well.....I like the gentle nudge of a slider . When the conditions outside are such that "complete closure" is required....I usually have all or some of the layers of window treatments working . Since the 3 sliders[along with a couple casements as well] were installed....our heating bills have declined. think of old traditional places in the world......in Britain with many cold windy days and SINGLE pain windows with leaks galore.....what do they do?.....custom made full length THICK LINED DRAPES.....pooling on the floor, no less.....Yes a lot of that was to keep out drafts. Get the window you want but don't expect much from cheap windows of any sort.

    Dennis thanked herbflavor
  • 7 years ago

    Shannon, skeptical - absolutely. Contemptuous - absolutely not! Oh and I love Consumer Reports and have had a subscription on and off for years but that is not to say that sometimes they don't leave out parts of testing that, while might not be important to the majority, may be interesting to others.


    Everyone else so far - thanks you have had some constructive thoughts.


    It is obvious the casements will seal better and so for the same glass area, glass type and covering, and vinyl frame area casements will likely perform better. What I am trying to do is get a feel for how much better?


    I want to be able to decide is: if I keep my house for another 10 years, how much will I save in heating bills by using casements vs sliders? (I don't care about cooling - this place is never too hot for me.)


    If someone can say it will likely be around 10% or 30% that gives me something I can relate back to my heating costs and then decide if the extra $200 or so I will spend for windows is worth it.


    I will have to take a closer look at the U-factor and figure it out from there.

  • 7 years ago

    Ha, this site is quite useful:

    https://www.efficientwindows.org

  • 7 years ago

    Wait, you asked about "vertical sliders". That is typically a DOUBLE HUNG.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    You can look at the air infiltration numbers from the manufacturers to see which seals tightest. Sometimes hung windows out perform casements in laboratory settings.

  • 7 years ago

    Sorry millworkman, I meant horizontal. Left to right or visa versa. Though anything that applies to vertical would likely mostly apply to horizontal too.