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Replace old weighted pulley windows with replacement vinyl windows?

6 years ago

Hi Everyone- I have an old 1936 home and i am almost positive that the windows are the originals which are the weighted pulley windows. These windows aren't the greatest in the northeast. In an attempt to add insulation to the house; i started removing trim around the windows as an access point and found that the canals where the weights are for the windows, there is no insulation. The amount of canal space equals a large window almost being open at all times. The previous owner installed the exterior storm window applications. What i am trying to do is insert the vinyl or whatever newer more efficient "replacement" like window would make sense while keeping the storm windows. This would allow me to property insulate those canals and i think it would make a huge difference for the home. Anyone have a video / instructions for this? really trying to figure out the framing for it and how the replacement window works with the storm windows.


Not a window pro so please excuse some of my joe blow terminology.


Thanks,

Brent

Comments (11)

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    You prepared to rip off interior trim?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O58RBz2_OBU

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    The storms would have to go unless you went with sash kits with jamb liners Or had your windows modified to run on them. There are other ways if you really want to keep the windows. The weight pockets could be filled with dense pack cellulose, low expansion window foam or cut rigid insulation to fit and seal perimeter with foam.

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks, toddinmn for the helpful comment. The reason I was trying to keep the storm windows is because they are relatively new and i am afraid of how much extra work will come about by removing them. Trying to avoid having to do exterior trim / aluminum which the storm takes care of and looks well.


    How efficient are the sash kits, relatively speaking?


    Thanks again,

    Brent

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    They create a similar assembly performance as would a single pane and a well sealed storm. They are usually not for the DIY'er based on complexity of getting them installed right.

  • 6 years ago

    This would allow me to property [sic] insulate those canals and i think it would make a huge difference for the home.

    A huge difference in regards to what—comfort? lower utility bills?

    Please post pictures of the existing windows, from both inside and outside, as well as the options you’re considering.

  • PRO
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    A sash kit with Dual pane and low-E would have similar performance to a triple pane unit. The STC rating would be better and much less loss of glass over an insert.

    Installation can be simple to comlex depending on who is installing and the condition of the existing opening . I rarely see them installed correctly by pros unless they are somewhat specialized in these, the ones they got right were because the openings and window needed no modification.

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks, Todd - you’re the man! Extremely helpful! I am going to look into the sash kits more!


    Best,

    Brent

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    You make have to use a window that is not cladded on the exterior side. Most use a cladding that can not be cut . It is very common (for me) to have to cut the window sashes to fit height.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    That is not a recommended practice @Rachel Gregory. That space between the storm and vinyl window can become very warm and distort the vinyl. Any issues that could be deemed related to this type of installation (warping, bowing, melting, glass seal failure, etc) would not be covered under the manufacturer warranty.

  • 4 years ago

    You will get heat build up between the new vinyl and the storm and you will get warped windows. DO NOT DO IT !

    Hire a window company.