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Are most kitchen cabinet drawers the same regarding wasted space?

6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

Wondering about different kitchen cabinet lines - are some cabinet lines more vs less wasteful in drawer cabinet design?

For example, I measured one of my current cabinets (manufacturer unknown). It has four drawers and is nominally 15" wide and standard height of about 33.5 inches and 24" deep. Nominally, that has the potential of nearly 7 cubic feet of storage. Of course, that's the external dimensions.

However, reality is that each drawer measures 10.5" wide, 4.75" high, and 18" deep, so each drawer only has .52 cf of space; times 4 drawers, that's barely 2 cf. So nearly 5 cf is lost to the actual framing of the cabinet, and drawers that don't go as deep as I might have hoped.

I'm wondering if ALL framed drawer cabinets are this wasteful with space, or if some manufacturers maybe are a bit less wasteful somehow.


Edited to add: I just thought to measure a base cabinet in another room, which I do know the manufacturer. Hanssemm, also a 15" cabinet. Drawer width is 10.25" (so only .25" less in width), but the depth is barely 16" - that's 2" of lost space in each and every drawer compared to my current kitchen cabinets.

Comments (18)

  • 6 years ago

    If you are concerned about this, you should be looking at frameless cabinets for your kitchen, not framed.

    helaurin93 thanked Shannon_WI
  • 6 years ago

    @Shannon_WI I've read that frameless cabinets aren't as durable as framed cabinets. I'm concerned about it, but I don't know how old my current cabinets are nor the manufacturer. I'd be interested to know if some manufacturers are better at space utilization in framed cabinetry.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    What you read about frameless is hooey. I’ve had frameless cabinets in several homes over 25 years.

    Here is a thread that might have some information for you. https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5204349/frameless-vs-framed-eclipse-by-shiloh#n=46

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Narrow drawers like this are not terribly useful but you probably will end up with such a stack. You will use them for small items.


    I used Shiloh's frameless cabinets for my lowers and I can promise you these things are solid as a rock! I have huge, wide drawers, filled with many heavy things, and they're fine 3 years later.

  • 6 years ago

    There was a great thread several years ago that really helped me to make decisions about drawer and cabinet construction. I can't find it right now. It was called something like "Everything you ever wanted to know about drawers;" or something like that. I wish I could find it for you; I'll keep looking. Maybe someone on here can look also.

    If you add up all the extra space you gain over your whole kitchen, you get a lot of extra space if you choose frameless construction. Frameless construction is not less strong, unless it's poor construction in the first place.

    helaurin93 thanked AJCN
  • PRO
    6 years ago

    frame less can be very sturdy when you buy the higher quality. You will get more storage with. Watch out for inset cabinets in kitchen, if someone closes drawers & something did not get put in drawer all the way damage can happen. I only use insets in built ins where they are not used daily.


    helaurin93 thanked Business_Name_Placeholder
  • 6 years ago

    Actually "higher quality" in frameless cabinets includes Ikea, which is a bargain.

    helaurin93 thanked sushipup1
  • 6 years ago

    So - what brands of frameless cabinets are good, and which should be avoided?

  • 6 years ago

    Ikea cabinets are excellent. If you don't like the doors/fronts, there are several companies that made beautiful ones to fir Ikea.

  • 6 years ago

    I hated all the wasted spaces too. I went for frameless and made some look like inset.

    I used a combination of Ikea and custom Conestoga.

    Even with frameless, you still have wasted space behind the drawers. There is a huge difference between manufacturers. When I did my research, I saw wasted space from 4”-8”.

    For my custom drawers, I specified 1/2” inch from the back wall.

  • 6 years ago

    @beachem Wow, thank you! By any chance, do you still have your research regarding the wasted space behind the drawers - which manufacturers were 4", which were 8"?

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Everything you ever wanted to know about drawers

    I remember that thread. it was great! but I don't know how to search for it.


    helaurin93 thanked desertsteph
  • helaurin93 thanked localeater
  • 6 years ago

    I went and measured each cabinet line. I don’t remember the info. It’s all packed away right now. I’ll try to take a picture of the custom setup I designed and the Ikea spacing.

    helaurin93 thanked beachem
  • 4 years ago

    This surprised and annoyed me to lose all the space ~3” depth at the back of the cabinet because drawer slides don’t hit the back wall of the cabinet

  • 4 years ago

    Correction not 3” rather 4.5-5” of dead space