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What is this sound? and what does it mean?

6 years ago

What is happening during this high spin? you'll have to watch to the end. Its a Miele w1115 that I picked up last year. Also I noticed small gravel when wash water was discharged into the tub. I noticed this when I started using a tub to collect discharged water, because I only have 2 washer drains, for my 3 used Miele washers. Now that I have the basement more organized and spacious, I have the room to pull it apart and fix. Maybe Linus and Dadoes will chime in.


Here is the gravel. This is water from a load of white towels:


Comments (17)

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Noise seems similar to mild bearing chatter or squeal ... but sounds are difficult to quantify from afar.

    The gravel, unfortunately, looks like debris from a deteriorating drum spider. This is the first time you've seen it?

    Pics from a Samsung I repaired four years ago.

    enduring thanked dadoes
  • 6 years ago

    Check the debris trap at the lower left.

    enduring thanked dan1888
  • 6 years ago

    I'll check the trap. This machine has been having this debris, possibly from the first run last summer. I noticed the debris when I had the drain hooked to a tub, so I could run all 3 washers, last winter and that's when I noticed it. I haven't used it over the winter, and ran it a few times this week. Still debris, and now the noise.

    I might want to try and repair it myself, depending on the cost. But I'm not adversed to taking it apart. I would like to do this, but it will have to wait a bit, as I have another project I need to finish first.

  • 6 years ago

    I checked the trap and there is next to nothing in there. But I have only used the machine 3-4 times since the winter. I probably cleaned it out back then, but don't remember if there was much in there.

    It does make a rubbing squeaking sound when dry, and the drum is turned. This is video from January 2020 of the sound.



  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    OOPS, my machine is a w1113 as shown in the video, not a 1115. sorry. I fixed the title of the video to correct model.

  • 6 years ago

    IMHO: that's a bearing going out.

    enduring thanked weedmeister
  • 6 years ago

    Does replacing the bearings require special tools?

  • 6 years ago

    If it's the main bearing, it's a difficult job and you need special tools. If Miele will even replace the bearing on newer machines, the machine has to be sent to their NJ facility for the repair (I believe they usually just replace the machine). The other issue is as dadoes mentions, the spider on the back of the drum could be deteriorating.

    enduring thanked Cal
  • 6 years ago

    Cal, thanks for your comments. I will not be heart broken if this machine is caput. I didn't pay much for it last year. But I would like to tear into it to see what is up with it. In a few weeks I'll have the time to do that. My other 2 second hand Mieles are still going strong. They are older, W1918. I love them. This w1113 is a newer type. Sort of like my w3033, the only one I bought new.

  • 6 years ago

    It'll be interesting to see the condition of the drum spider if you go ahead with disassembly ... but be advised a huge, complete disassembly is required, including removal of the tub assembly and opening the outer tub to get the inner drum out. The tub assembly is very heavy with either concrete (or more likely for Miele) cast-iron weights attached.

    You might just keep using the machine until it comes to a screeching halt, watching the discharge to see if the debris continues and/or increases in volume.

  • 6 years ago

    Lizzie, thanks for your vote of confidence, I'll need it when I get to the teardown. I have a news letter I need to get out over the next week, then the laundry sink install prep. Finally, I'll plan to get into that machine by end of June, I hope. Ill keep this thread updated.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Hello, I have been using the machine with only discharging the wash water into a bucket. As Dadoes suggested, I decided to "just keep using...( I can't bear to quote the rest of what he said, lol)

    Shortly after I initially posted this, My machine stopped making the noise when spinning and there was less gravely stuff noted in the bucket. It seems to be working fine now, I guess?

    I have rigged up a new set up to discharge the wash water. It works. A lot less complicated than having the plumber install a new draining system. The hose is a high temp hose, at 180*f but this washer can get to 205*f. I don't know if its cooled before discharge or not. You might need to click the new green linked feature to "read more".





    Just a reminder, here is my row of miele's


  • 6 years ago

    How many people live in your house!? I just never knew people have multiple w/d till I read about it on this forum. Or, is it a hobby/collection thing?

  • 6 years ago

    Where do you take the wash water once it's pumped into the bucket?

  • 6 years ago

    Hopefully it's a good sign that the debris is easing but only ~two months has passed so I wouldn't bank 100% on there no longer being a potential problem. Keep us advised. :-)

  • 6 years ago

    Monicakm, the machines are a bite of a hobby and for the laundry. These sets get really hot water and get my husbands farm clothes clean. They are small, being a European sized washer. I put a hole in the bucket and a spout. The hose carries the water over to the drain. The system works with the bucket elevated on the white bucket The top bucket is a tiny bit smaller in the base, so it sort of locks into the bottom of the upside down bucket for stability.


    Dadoes, I will keep the thread posted. As always thanks for your help.