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Dining Room Chandelier Finish HELP!!!

Hi Everyone!

I have been struggling with some renovation decisions and I just realized how awesome this platform is for guidance and help!

I’m helping my uncle renovate his condo that I will be moving into, and have been stuck on several areas that I need to make decisions on in the next two days. I thought I would try the discussions section here for help!

I need to choose some lighting fixtures for the condo, which has an open straight narrow rectangle shape dining/living room and I am having trouble with what finish color I should go with. (If I should mix and match throughout, go with the same finish etc) Once I figure out the dining room chandelier finish, I figured it would help me make a decision with the other ones.

The condo is going to be painted a very light almost white color throughout, with dark hardwood floors. I wanted to go with venetian bronze hardware on the doors- (my Step mom just did this in her condo renovation and it looks amazing against the very light walls)

I am struggling on the finish color for the dining room chandelier. The current chandelier is a brass, and I don’t know whether I should stick to the same finish, or go with a bronze color or polished nickel/chrome. I would so greatly appreciate anyone’s feedback. I have attached pictures of the dining room & current chandelier that I need to replace as well as the bronze hardware that my step mom used in her condo basement, that I plan to use on the main level of the condo.

Thank you for your time!!

Comments (29)

  • 5 years ago

    RL is so right! Did you have your furniture? Are you also changing out the hardware on the kitchen cabinets? Either way, we need to see the kitchen. Does the dark flooring work with your furniture? Because it appears you don't have much natural light in your condo I think you will find that the dark flooring is going to make your space darker so even with the white walls you still need to be very mindful of that. And dark floors show everything!

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you so much Ted for your reply. I wished I had thought of the dark flooring before. I don’t have my furniture picked out yet and unfortunately I have to choose the paint color and the lighting fixtures before I get my furniture. I do know that I will be getting a white slipcovered linen sectional for the living room. The only thing I have purchased is the dining room table. I have attached a picture below. In regards to the kitchen- I plan to update the knobs… I was thinking of doing a gold and acrylic knob (see photo below) however I may change that depending on the light fixture finish I choose to go with so it matches.

    Would love to hear your suggestions on what color hardware I should choose for the kitchen along with the color finish of the light fixture.

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you so much RL for your reply. The only thing I have picked out is the dining room table (which if needed- I could sell and purchase another one) It is a 66” long table - from Pier1 it’s called the Bradding and I purchased it in the natural finish as seen above.

    Unfortunately they are not updating the electrical- so I will have to choose something to go in replace of what is currently there.

    My overall look for the place is clean, modern, light, airy and a little bit coastal.

  • 5 years ago

    Let's back up the train a moment. Did you do a furniture layout for your space? I'm concerned about the table fitting with chairs and still having enough room to walk around it. And I would like to see how the sectional you are considering fits in the room. Often a sectional is not the best idea if the room isn't large. It limits seating, can make the room feel smaller and limits flexibility of where other pieces could go. So you need to do a layout if you haven't before you make any more purchases. And by doing so, it will also give us an idea of what the size and shape of the chandelier should be.

    Now back to your initial questions. Have you tried removing the shades on the chandelier to see what it looks like? I'd like to see it without the shades as there is a good chance that it could work with your table. Unless that is not even an option for you? Without seeing the kitchen cabinets it's difficult to say if that hardware you are considering would work. Need photos.

  • 5 years ago

    Lots of helpful comments here. I agree to trying the chandelier without shades, and maybe taking off the crystals if they aren't your style. You can always spray paint it. While you are at it, paint the cord and wall plate to match the walls to make it disappear.

    You definitely need to do a furniture layout. I think a sectional might work if you turned it to define "rooms" in that long space. I like to make "maps" of a room using graph paper to create proper proportions, then do the same thing with your furniture to see how things will fit. You may have to turn your lovely table long ways in the nook.

  • 5 years ago

    I have never seen a chandelier rigged up like that. Can they add a box so that there’s no plug?

  • 5 years ago

    If the chandelier cannot be installed properly I would instead get a few wall sconces to give light in that area- no matter what you hang there is going to look tacky with the cord and plug arrangement you have! If you cannot do wall installations for sconces, then find some tall floor lamp up-lights for the corners and put them on dimmers. But the current hanging situation is a big problem. And yes, do that floorpan before anything else. Keep looking for lighting and fall in love with something- that will give you direction for a style to follow and for a finish for the rest of the hardware. Remember that whatever you really love will 'go with' other things you really love! It's that personalization that makes it your home.


  • 5 years ago

    Is that existing chandelier centered in the dining area? It is worth checking with an electrician to see if they could put a box in the ceiling to have it on a wall switch. I agree with many of the comments, get graph paper and do a floor plan so you know if the furniture will fit. A sectional is tricky if you don’t have a huge space so make sure you measure out the space around it for traffic . We had a huge leather sectional in a previous house that was perfect - it was in a huge room and worked well with kids. We moved and have a huge den. It made the room feel small. We replaced it after a few years and the room feels so much more spacious and comfortable. Good luck

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Actually it will be installed properly just with a plug on the end!

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    @ashely that is how they did it in the 70's, hence all the swag lights in MCM homes.

  • 5 years ago

    I think an easy update that wouldn't even require worrying about a finish: select a hanging lamp kit (usually white) and add a linen drum shade. The cord can easily be adapted to the exact length you need, there is no canopy needed (just the hook to hang it from) and the shade can be any size, fabric and color (I would use an off-white linen to go with your coastal theme and sofa) you'd like. You can buy them already together from $50 on up, or create your own combination from stores like World Market, Etsy, Lowes, etc. Easy peasy.

  • 5 years ago

    It is not an expensive job to run buried wire up to a ceiling junction box. But you need to know what table you will be using before you do that. So wait until your furniture is selected and mapped out. You might like your current light more if you clan the brass and modernize it a bit. You can get it rewired and get rid of the fake candle thing, replacing the flame bulbs with little round candelabra bulbs that screw directly into bases (with no “candle” post). The hurricane globes can be replaced with round or columnar globes. But if you want to go modern, I would stick with brass to meld with your chosen hardware. Something like this (which you can find in cheaper knockoffs):





  • 5 years ago

    My photo did not post. Another try:




  • 5 years ago

    Stick with the Venetian bronze thru out the condo. it will look nice against the painted celings. Do get a profession electrician to wire the chandler and get rid of the unsightly outlet...if you don't you will kick yourself later....


    . The dinning room furniture most likely will a medium to light tone..you do want some contrast from the flooring right? right.


    The size of the light will be partially determined by the size of your table. Make sure you will have enough bright lighting and put that switch on a dimmer... stick with pinkish or warmish lightbulb color...that will flatter everyones complexion...


    Get what you Love.... don't overthink it...if you love get it...you will never be sorry...don't settle and take whatever time is needed to find what you love.


  • 5 years ago

    I just scanned up the thread and noticed that you do already have your table picked out, and you don’t plan to change the electrical hookup for the light. So if you are stuck with a swag arrangement, why no go for a light that is designed to be hung that way? If you Google “swag plug-in chandeliers” you will find a lot of otptions, many of which are truly awful. But I saw this and thought it was a creative way to deal with the issue, and really sweet lamp, too. The cord is covered in a tube of cloth or braided rope (can‘t tell which):



    Also, I always like a single globe over a table, hung at the correct height (lower than what you have). This one is the Pryor light, from Modern Lighting, and it comes with a plug-in cord option for swagging:




  • 5 years ago

    Sputnik Lighting

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    It's a pop-corn ceiling. Can't run any wiring there unless you rebuild the ceiling either by removing the pop-corn and adding gyproc or adding a lowered gyproc ceiling. Expensive and the height will be lowered. If you use a chandelier, it's going to feel like it's falling on your head unless it's flush with the ceiling.

    I'd go with some sconces close to the wall, but you'll need to break the wall for wiring. Or else 1 or 2 beautiful, slim lamps in the corners. The style of the lamps needs to go with the furniture. Seems the table is rather rustic, so maybe the lamps could be slim torchiere type.

  • 5 years ago

    I would take off the popcorn ceiling for starters. I sort of like what you have minus the hurricane globes - these come off and perhaps add more crystals. Is the brass aged or shiny gold? Rustoleum oil rubbed bronze paint works wonders.

  • 5 years ago

    @Webado, what are you on about? It isn’t necessary to cut a channel in the ceiling to run a wire. And those spray-on textured ceilings can be patched. Not a big deal at all. That’s just looking for something to be contentious about. Weird. Why do that?


    You also don‘t need to “break the wall” for wiring if the sconces (not ”scones,” which would not hang on a wall very well) are hung above a wall plug.


    And the chandelier height? Huh? There is a standard height for hanging a light over a table. That existing chandelier is hung way too high.


    If that were my condo, I would have the crew scrape off the ceiling texture, btw. The stuff breaks down over time, and it holds dirt. Again, not a complicated job (unless you‘re dealing with an older property and there is asbestos in the “popcorn” material), but it’s messy and takes potentially expensive hours of labor. The pro due is to spray the ceiling to soften the stuff, and then it’s scraped off, and finally the ceiling gets a skim coat of plaster. But I doubt this homeowner wants to get into any of that.

  • 5 years ago

    @P M - About 25-30 years ago my parents bought a newly built condo with popcorn ceilings. They wanted to have wiring in the ceiling and were told that it would be very difficult and expensive to replace the popcorn ceiling with gyproc and leave space for wires above it. It's my experience, that's all. In the end they didn't do it and used floor lamps and sconces. A real PITA.


    As for chandeliers in a small room, I am against their hanging low. Too many times I've hit my head on them, and at 5'4" I'm not even tall. Now I have only ceiling fixtures flush with the ceiling, not hanging. AT most 8-10" of height. Trust me they are beautiful, Murano crystal and rival any chandelier.


    As for scones - you're right, it's sconces, my bad.


  • 5 years ago

    fhicksTX


    Personally, I like the combination of the dark/bronze metal with the crystal of the existing fixture.
    However, you might want to select a more modern design/style.

  • 5 years ago

    Popcorn ceilings are a pain in the neck. A reputable contractor will test for asbestos. Many popcorn ceilings have asbestos and some don’t. Speaking from experience.

  • 5 years ago

    We have removed all the popcorn ceilings on the first floor of our home (working on the 2nd) and it is APITB, however the rooms are now so much brighter. Given the lack of natural light in your space, I would recommend you seriously consider doing same. Also, if at all possible, take care of that ugly chandelier installation. You will not regret it. Spend the money now to upgrade the "infrastructure" in your condo. Also, agree the dark floor is not a good idea - absorbs light and shows every mote of dust, :( The best way to approach this project is like cooking an elephant - one piece at a time. Once the floor and ceilings and the correct installation for a chandelier are handled, take your time. You will have more money and be able to buy things you truly love and your new home will be a true reflection of who you are. Good luck!

  • 5 years ago

    My 2 cents are about light in the whole condo: Don't be surprised at the amount of lighting it may take to brighten up the space. I had to beg and borrow floor lamps and table lamps in order to see how much light I was going to need ( my space was i the north east corner of the building). I got an unrelated mash but at least I knew where to place lamps and the total amount of wattage. I wrote notes and returned all of the borrowed lamps. Overtime, I purchased lamps, rebuilt older ones from the flea market, etc. By now I have replaced the bulbs with LEDs so electricity bill went down and I have a bright space. If it is too late for changing the floor color, you may want to think about lighter area rugs. They will give your spaces definition, lighten the floors and could be easier to keep clean. Sisal?

  • 5 years ago

    @sarahneider, a condo with light coming only from one sliding glass door can feel awfully dark during the day. But some clever lighting can make a warm atmosphere at night. If you have a day job, you‘re enjoying your home at night must if the time anyway. A dark floor with (nearly) white walls and light color furniture can ground the space and make it feel larger than it is.




  • 5 years ago

    I have dry scraped a popcorn ceiling (with mask) and it turned out like a beautifully textured modern ceiling. I used a stiff scraper made of metal.
    The easiest way to disguise the cord is to use wire molding sold at Home Depot. Then paint the plug and receptacle and wire mold the same color as the wall it is against. Another thing I have done is added several wood pieces about 1” wide across entire ceiling about 3’ apart. That would give a very coastal feel if you used a rough sawn wood with a light stain or pickling applied. Then you could hide the cord behind the wood strip.

  • 5 years ago

    The very last thing to choose for this room will be the light fixture. Its a small area with no natural light other than what comes from the window in living room. Go with a linen shade light fixture or bronze multi arm light fixture- whatever will look best with the final finishes in the room n surrounding area

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