What a nice gift or freebie! I have a suspicion on the second plant, but I'm not a hundred percent, so I'll let others answer first. If they don't, I'll take a shot at it.

The pot size seems OK, or you could go just a little bigger if you want. As noted, Thanksgiving and Christmas cactus like to be potbound. I've included a photo (from ten seconds ago) of one of my Thanksgiving cactus below. You can see it's a rather full plant in a rather small pot; they really don't mind being potbound, although this is reaching its limits and needs to be cut back or repotted.

They do like a rich, but decently-drained soil. Any commercials succulent mix would be fine.

Personally, I use 2/3 standard Miracle Gro Moisture Control and 1/3 sand, with a tad of Perlite tossed in for fun, but that last is optional. The reason I do so is that I don't like keeping a lot of items on-hand at once, and can make my own soils from just a few things.

To bloom, light is critical. Keep it in natural light. The one below sees too much artificial lighting to blossom reliably. My four others do fine, though. They tend to prefer bright indirect, but can tolerate some sun, as you see here. Those bronze-red tips indicate that the plant is getting a bit too much light, but it's working with it fine.

Water when dry. They're tolerant of low water levels, but don't push it to wilting. The guide I included says every 2 to 3 weeks, but I find I have to water far more often. My soil is lighter and airier than that, and I use the plant as a guide. In warm weather and with the greater light on my western windows, once to twice a week is more like it.

https://www.almanac.com/plant/christmas-cactus

I trim my "Christmas cactus" plants so they don't grow and splay out like yours. However, some people do like to let them grow that way, so I'm not saying that's wrong. I cannot remember the right time to do it so maybe someone will join in here and let us know in case you do want to trim. The cuttings can be rooted. More plants! You got a nice plant there.

Trimming's cool and yep, they root really easily just by dropping them in dirt! They say the best time is right after blossom, although I've done it into very early summer and gotten away with it (I'm not saying that's optimal, though!) Trimming them back makes them branch a bit, too.

That one you see of mine is starting to get out of hand. Two downstairs are far worse.

https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/cacti-succulents/christmas-cactus/christmas-cactus-pruning.htm

I agree with socks - that is the way they grow. You can keep pruning it, but IMO, your plant looks good as is. They have little bit different growing habit than typical TC. Longer segments too. Many pot them up into a mix containing some bark - they are epiphytic cacti, so it works. They will grow in a succulent mix too. Mine are in a bark-based mix.

I have CC and TC (this one since 2012) and never did any 'tricks' to get them blooming. CC are only 2yrs old but bloomed both years. Number of blooms doubled from yr 1 to yr 2. Older TC blooms profusely every year...and it spends every summer outside in lots of sun. I keep CC in hanging baskets, also outdoors during summer, but in morning sun only.

TC - blooms like this every year:

CC - Dec. 2020:

Your hitchhiker plant looks like etiolated kalanchoe.

Your tag-a-long looks like Mother of Thousands to me. If it starts to grow little plantlets on the end of the leaves, you'll know.

Good luck with your holiday cactus. The leaf shape indicates Christmas, rather than Thanksgiving, to me. It's beautiful in all its reckless splendor!

Morpheuspa, thank you for the helpful information. Your Thanksgiving cactus is so full and healthy! I'd love one like that. I was not aware that there were different "holiday" cacti.

The information you provided is really very helpful. I just discovered a garden nursery very close to where I live sells horticultural sand. I would like to try it in my potting media to see if I like it---or maybe I should say---to see if my plants like it!

Socks, I think it would be a good idea to trim this plant. I suspect that this plant has never been trimmed before.

Rina, your plants are beautiful! Thank you for explaining about the differences between the TC and the CC. I think the TC seems like a very nice plant. I will have a look in the garden centers to see if I ever see one. Now I have a better idea of what it looks like. So, just to be clear, are you saying that the TC needs more sun, or just tolerates more sun?

The hitchhiker is an etiolated kalanchoe? I would have never guessed that. I wonder whether is it worth saving or should I just throw it away? The stem is extremely long!

Greenman, what a wonderful collection of holiday cacti! Thank you for letting me know that these cacti can grow in a bark based media. I do put together a 511 mix for my outdoor perennials. Personally, I haven't had success using that media for indoor plants. I suspect it is due to the fact that watering differs for that media as compared to regular potting media.

I am a little worried about whether I will be able to get this plant out of its clay pot. I usually use plastic pots.

So now my questions are:

(1) where should I cut the plant---a little bit all over?

(2) what length do the cuttings need to be in order to root them in a pot?

511 is excellent for these plants.

Water often, they will thrive.

Josh

Agree with Josh. I do not even add peat. They like a very loose soil. They are epiphytes and grow in pockets of branches in larger trees. In a way they are more like orchids.

newhostalady

TY. I am not really sure if TC is more sun tolerant, I just kept mine in full sun for 11 years during summer. The reason: it was a gift, potted in the same pot with Euphorbia that likes sun...so TC had no choice, lol. Nothing happened to it, it just got reddish leaves. Sometimes it blooms 2x/yr. I keep CC in morning sun only, because they are much more difficult to find - I do not remember seeing them in stores for many years. I was just lucky to get 3 cuttings, so I 'baby' them more...TC are widely available, especially before the holidays. You'll see them sold quite inexpensively, and MISLABELLED as CC...Even in reputable stores/GH. They have sometimes different colors, usually white - but not so many. Right now, there should be many Easter/Spring cacti available - they have also similar leaves/pads, but have differently shaped blooms. Here is a drawing & a photo showing the difference between 3 of them:

I would get rid of that kalanchoe, saving a leaf or 2 - if you want new plants. They will root from the leaves. Many grow 'babies' on the leaves themselves. They are kind of weedy, but many have very nice blooms. Here is K. daigremontiana just starting to bloom:

I usually keep only 1 or 2 plants because of nice flowers - they self sow everywhere but are easy to pull out.

ETA: I just wonder why do you want to repot the CC?

And why do you want to trim it? Just wondering...

There's no wrong way to eat a Snickers. There's really no wrong way to repot a holiday cactus other than using a really heavy soil. They're epiphytes, but grow in the organic matter of tree hollows and other places, including some really oddball OM bits and pieces in their natural pots. I've certainly had no issues with the mix I use and I'm sure the other recommendation is OK as well. At risk of black or white thinking, there are probably many other options that work fine too. Do whatever's working best for you and the plant will be just fine, without worrying too much that you've made a bad choice once you do make a choice. These are not picky plants--again, as long as the mix is lighter and airier with plenty of drainage and air space.

"So, just to be clear, are you saying that the TC needs more sun, or just tolerates more sun?"

About the same by my lights, but again, I'm sure we could argue that all day. My CC and my TCs all get about the same and all do fine. Technically, it's always more than they should and they all manage perfectly well. That one in the photo also sees enhanced artificial lighting from October through April when my office windowsills are filled, so blooming is rare (it never gets the key of shortening daylight so blooms sporadically...in May).

If you give them a lot of sun, as Rina noted, they turn red or bronze, like the one in my photo. From winter sunlight and enhanced artificial lighting, it's tipped in rose.

I just noticed the downstairs one is blooming again (it blossomed in January) in the big pot, so it appears somebody's having a nice early spring. And no, it's a TC not an EC.

"The hitchhiker is an etiolated kalanchoe? I would have never guessed that. I wonder whether is it worth saving or should I just throw it away? The stem is extremely long!"

If it were me? Why not try to root a cutting, at the very least. The stem is severely out of shape.

You can trim the CC if you want but again, as Rina noted, with proper care it should fill out pretty nicely. You certainly can trim it if you want (dealer's choice, it's your plant and none of us will show up at your home and point fingers at you if you do it). Mine in the photo is about to get a little shaping because it's imposing itself on that thermometer on the table and getting a little leggy up top. A nick here, a snip there, it'll look much nicer.

The nicks and snips will get planted in the big pot downstairs where, for the most part, they'll add to the already enormous mass of TC in a variety of colors.

Greenman, watering a plant more often is, I guess, a drawback for using 511. But it is good to know that if I am in doubt about whether to water or not with a plant in 511, I could indeed water without risking root rot.

Tropicofcancer, you are saying that you have CC or other holiday cactci in just bark? What I really don't understand is that here in Ontario, Canada I have a difficult time finding pine bark in small pieces. I can find chunks, but they are way too big. But I know it is widely available in the U.S. and in Europe too. Really frustrating. I used to go to an orchid show that carried plants and supplies. It was a great place for bark, coco husk etc But due to COVID-19, there are no shows.

Rina, I see what you mean about your CC and why you gave it more sun. I would have done the same! Interesting about your difficulty in finding the CC for a few years. Now I'm really curious to see what I can find in my area. Will I see any Easter cactus? I wonder. Thanks for the photo showing the leaf and flower of each cacti. Very helpful. I probably will try to root the kalanchoe just to see how it grows. Your K. daigremontiana flower is super!

"I usually keep only 1 or 2 plants because of nice flowers - they self sow everywhere but are easy to pull out." Not sure what you mean?

"I just wonder why do you want to repot the CC?" The person who had this plant was quite elderly. I suspect it hasn't been repotted for quite some time. The soil has compacted. I'm worried about getting the plant out of the clay pot without damaging the roots though.

"And why do you want to trim it? Just wondering..." I guess I thought it was something I should do. I thought it should be fuller. But now I only see one or two stems that are longer than the others. So I think I should just cut them and see how it survives my repot!

Morpheuspa, good point about repotting requirements for CC. I think it is also important to know what kind of waterer one is. I tend to not overwater, and I like not having to water as often. But I know that my plants may not do as well as if I had a looser media. I did an experiment with a couple of ming aralias which I planted in 511. In two years, those plants barely grew. They would grow new leaves and others would yellow and drop. I learned that I was not watering enough and figured out that the bark media had actually dried out. I started to water more often and actually plunged the whole pot into water to rehydrate the bark. The plants are starting to thrive now. Live and learn.

I will try to root the kalanchoe. It's always interesting to see how it will grow.

Hey, there's one bud. I hope it opens so I can see the flower.

That's a really long stem on the hitchhiker.

The hitchhiker leaf.

"But I know that my plants may not do as well as if I had a looser media. I did an experiment with a couple of ming aralias which I planted in 511. In two years, those plants barely grew. They would grow new leaves and others would yellow and drop. I learned that I was not watering enough and figured out that the bark media had actually dried out. I started to water more often and actually plunged the whole pot into water to rehydrate the bark. The plants are starting to thrive now. Live and learn."

I...have my criticisms of the mix myself, but they are not popular around here and I have my own alternates. The hydrophobic nature of the bark if it dries out is one of those criticisms, and the lack of its ability to effectively hold any water at all (making it a bad choice for forgetful waterers, longer holidays, or thirstier plants). CC and other holiday cactus are not the sort of plants that will mind a slightly damper soil, or even a moderately damper one. Just don't soak them. They live in tropical forests with daily rains, in natural pots, that do get rather wet and aren't exactly what I'd call "well-aerated."

While I have one in an African violet pot, there's a hole drilled in the inner pot, and I certainly don't let them sit in water. It's just because I like the way the pot looks.

What are your criticisms? I'd be curious to hear them.

Bark has almost the same moisture-holding capacity of peat moss, so hydrophobia is entirely an issue that falls upon the grower. Forgetfull plant care-takers might consider plastic plants.

Josh

"What are your criticisms? I'd be curious to hear them."

Pass, although I covered half of it above (skipping the environmental concerns and my minimized usage of both peat and bark, although I'll allow some more peat than bark as there are no great solutions). In a thread over the weekend, it was a round robin of ad hominens and flat-out name-calling in my direction because nobody could be halfway reasonable about the situation or present a sensible argument.

This thread will simply devolve into that as the same people find it and I've already advised that the next time it happens, I'll give as good as I get--without warning--the moment it's given. I'll simply continue to recommend the mixes I cooked up and like, or point out that this isn't a black or white situation and neither solution is necessarily optimal for the casual plant owner who doesn't babysit their plants all the time. There's nothing wrong with a premade mix from the store for those who prefer not to fiddle.

"Forgetfull plant care-takers might consider plastic plants."

Eh, we all go away at times, or get distracted. Or have projects we're paying attention to. Or, like me, disappear into our studios and emerge days later, covered in paint. Sometimes the plants have to take care of themselves, and a lot of people who come here aren't looking to water every other day in measured amounts. They're the more casual plant owner with a peace lily and a mother-in-law tongue. Recommending a specialized mix that has to be fiddled and finagled with isn't necessarily the best idea.

If somebody's got bonsai then sure, special care is necessary, no questions there. But do this to my mother and she'll have zero living plants in thirty days or less. At the moment, the number is 2.

If somebody wants to baby-sit, great. More power to them and I applaud that. But most just don't.

And some plants won't accept that, like that ageratum I photographed and sent up. Even in a heavy mix, it requires water every other day. It wouldn't last four hours in 5:1:1.

@greenman28 Peat has a water holding capacity that is about 50% higher than bark. See Table 1 in that document.

Turface as part of the mix can go a long way to holding water for a longer period of time than either peat or bark, and turface makes it easier to rehydrate both of those once they do dry out.

newhostalady

I only describe what I have experienced...not saying "my way is the only way"...

I have read all articles by Al and learned a lot. And I learned from ppl like Josh and many others (most not contributing here anymore and that is a shame - BUT I am sure they have good reasons why not). I like 511, and went crazy at the beginning to get the ingredients. As nhlady said, it is very difficult to find small bark in Ontario, Canada. So I eventually dropped it. I was able to find turface, but IMO it was holding too much water. So I reduced the amount. I still have 50lb bag from the initial purchase - I use it, but much less. I do not use bark for succulents, I use just sifted perlite + grit, adding small amount of turface, or promix. I have been doing this for number of years. I use some bark, for my CC and TC, since they are epiphytic plants as I said in my initial post. TC in the photo was given to me in 2012, and I never pruned it, nor repotted it. Only 2mo ago I finally did - so it was after having plants for 8 yrs. The reason: to separate now huge TC from Euphorbia. I doubt I would have done it otherwise... I do not know how long they were in that pot, but they were established plants. They were in really 'bad' mix that was full of sand, and very compacted. I split TC only because there were couple of plants, and I had relatively small pots on hand. Bigger one is in a plastic hanging basket, smaller in a plastic 6" pot. I added some reptibark to the mix for TC. I made same mix for 1 of the Christmas Cactus. Other one (actually 2 cuttings potted together) is in a mix that I added sphagnum moss to - little of the orchid bark I had is used for the top dressing. That was after I got them - they were newly rooted cuttings in peat pots. I used plastic hanging pots - recycled...So far (approx. 2yrs) I do not see difference in the growth of either plant; you can see in the pics I posted.

I am not suggesting that yo shouldn't repot or trim your plant; just wondered what were your reasons. I do not trim just because IMO they look better and better as they age...CC are not sold in stores anymore I believe; most ppl get them just as you got it, or by getting cuttings from plants that are quite old as I did.

As for kalanchoe, I often pull out small hitchikers and they end up in the compost...the plant would grow everywhere if I didn't...

@newhostalady, My CC/TC's are in bark + perlite. Just no peat in it. Yes it does drain very fast and can be watered whenever want. Since it drains very fast it is important to ensure that everything soaks well. True for all fast draining mixes. It is better to be slow and gentle covering the entire pot so the water has chance to reach all parts of the mix. It does not need it everyday. except in the heat of the Summer (here we rarely cross 95F though) more to keep it cool. Mine stay in partial shade outside. I try to keep mine small like many other plants I have. So I divide it every summer and give/sell the one half.

ETA: Reading Rina's post I think I may only have TC. I need to investigate this.

im jealous.. if any of my CC looked half this good.. i would be doing the snoopy happy dance ...

and i sure would NOT be fixing that which is not broken .. because it doesnt fit my preconceived notions of what i think it should look like ..

this is a well grown plant in a form that it grew into.. dont confuse bigbox offerings with nature ...

there is a big difference between what you CAN do.. and what you SHOULD do .. and i vote .. you should do nothing .... but if you insist.. do whatever makes you happiest .... its your plant ...

as a failsafe.. root a few pieces.. before you kill this one ... lol ...

ken

god i loved Vince Guaraldi Trio ... i had the charlie brown jazz album .. which was the music from the show ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRpyAGCsiw

"im jealous.. if any of my CC looked half this good.. i would be doing the snoopy happy dance ..."

Ken, post photos, I'm sure we can help!

To greenman: "Bark has almost the same moisture-holding capacity of peat moss, so hydrophobia is entirely an issue that falls upon the grower." I'm surprised to hear that bark and peat moss have similar moisture holding capacity. But then I did read the article Westes linked. So peat moss holds more moisture. As for it being "my fault" for not watering properly---I agree. I hadn't realized that I needed to water so much more with the 511 mix. I also overwinter hosta which are in a 511 mix in my garage. I find they get very dry. Currently I have a few hosta pots that have come out of dormancy, but it's still cold here. Our temperatures are hovering around 32F, but sometimes going much colder during the night. How would I rehydrate those pots without waterlogging them during this critical time?

westes, good attached article!

Rina, "it is very difficult to find small bark in Ontario, Canada. So I eventually dropped it." Boy do I know what you mean! And I bought a bag of turface and still have it too! It is in a garbage can in my backyard and weighs a ton. I have got to do something with it rather than just leaving it by my shed!

Rina, I am glad you were able to figure out a mix that is working for you in regards to your succulents and holiday cacti. Interesting that you tried two different media for your holiday cacti and see no difference.

I finally went to a garden nursery today. I saw no Easter cactus! Not one! There's a small variety store I frequent. Maybe they will get some? I'll check.

Tropicofcancer, thank you for explaining how to water with a bark based media.

Ken, you're jealous? That suits me fine as I've been "jealous" of your having had so many hosta in the past. Not fair!

Newhosta,

indeed, consistent but lighter waterings will help prevent the media from becoming hydrophobic while also keeping it from being overly water-logged during your cold Winters.

As for the moisture of peat versus bark, I could very well be misremembering some critical part of a discussion by Al. I thought that he had explained that a container of bark and a container of peat would roughly hold the same amount of moisture. I will attempt to find that discussion to determine whether my memory has failed me.

Josh

If memory serves, it's around the same. The issue with small, lighter waterings is salt buildup, a problem with any plant (although at least holiday cactus aren't known for tipping). It'll destroy any soil a lot faster by having resources binding to the resources points as well, though, as the water dries, concentrating and leaving behind all the ions in the water.

All water naturally contains calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate, plus a host of other stuff (at least Ca and Mg ions are usually in carbonate form, but not always, and chlorides may also be present).

You can defeat that by using cheap distilled water (not perfect, but so close let's just call it that for the sake of argument).

greenman says: "indeed, consistent but lighter waterings will help prevent the media from becoming hydrophobic while also keeping it from being overly water-logged during your cold Winters." It is a difficult balance between too little and too much moisture. I think I need to use nature's snow more often than I have.

morpheuspa, it is interesting to me to hear about salt build up. I suspect that is the problem with a large dracaena plant I have. The leaves have a mottled appearance on them. I've had this plant for decades. I've never seen that. But then, I haven't repotted in ages and realize also that the pot it's in is not good. The excess water drains into a reservoir and then the plant soaks it up when it needs water. That can't be good. I think my plant is sick and tired of doing that and is paying me back for not giving it a better pot and doing a repot! But I do use rainwater for my houseplants for half the year.

Rainwater actually has an acidic pH and plenty of resources already in it--but if you buy the really, really cheap distilled water from the grocery store, that's extremely pure. It might be worth a try!

And yes, after ages of not repotting, it's probably time. :-)

Resoaking water from the tray isn't really recommended, but I do it all the time because I'm Mr. Lazy. What you can do, temporarily anyway, is put the thing in the shower or tub and run water through it--just tapwater (yes, it has fluoride and chlorine, but to do a wash-through isn't a problem once in a while). Let the plant pee down the drain. A lot.

Then run through some rainwater to finish it off and flush out the tapwater a bit. Let that go through and pee out to wash the chlorine compounds and fluoride. When done, put the plant back and let it consider that its watering.

Then repot whenever you can.

Occasionally flushing a pot really helps out. I have one that has no drain hole (it's a beautiful Chinese pot, heavy ceramic, that's actually broken a glass bit on the drill when I tried to put a hole in the bottom). I do the best I can, and at the beginning and end of summer, I soak it, tilt it on its side, and let the water run out several times to flush it. It's not optimal, but the poinsettia in it survives OK as a houseplant.

That's a really good tip---about taking a plant to the shower and soaking the media allowing it to flush out. I have two plants that could use that treatment! Both are almost 6 feet so it won't be easy. Good idea to flush your Chinese pot by allowing it to soak up a lot of water and then tilting it on its side. Excellent! I am putting the shower suggestion on the to-do list!

newhostalady: I converted my hand held shower attachment to make it easier to give my plants a shower. I replaced that silly 2 feet hand shower pipe with a 7 feet stainless steel flex extension one (from HD) and so it has a lot of reach. I also replaced the hand shower head with a garden hose multi-pattern nozzle. To do that you will need 1/2 inch male to male hose adapter (also from HD). This way you can select your pattern between gentle shower and fan pattern blast to knock off pests.

That would work beautifully. I simply use a watering can because I never thought of that. :-)

I know one of my showers doesn't have a hand held attachment. So I went to check on my other shower. I was disappointed to find that the hand held unit is quite strong when spraying and won't be able to be used. Our shower head and hand held need to be replaced! I like what you did tropicofcancer! Very smart! Thanks for sharing. I'm going to speak to my husband about getting a new shower head plus attachment!

I guess I'll be using my watering can just like you have morpheuspa! Hopefully your hand held attachment works better than mine.

Try moderating the pressure from the tub adjustment; just barely turn the water on cold and see if you can route it to the hand attachment that way, then slowly increase the pressure.

Cold water is fine, it should come out of the tap at around 55 degrees, which isn't going to be a problem for most plants for a single wash-off and rinse-through.

But other than that, the watering can works fine. :-)

Morpheuspa, unfortunately the problem with my bathroom shower faucet is that it I am unable to get the water to flow just through the hand held unit. Apparently the unit is not working properly. So water flows through the shower faucet OR through the shower faucet and the hand held at the same time! We need a new shower faucet!

I've been very curious about the other holiday cactus that are available. I finally found one! It was labeled "spring cactus." It is the Easter cactus. I couldn't resist the pretty blooms. When I bought it, only a couple blooms were open. Two days later, this is what it looks like: (in a 4 inch pot)

And there were white ones and red ones. Maybe I should have gotten another one???

Photo of the last and only one bloom remaining on my Christmas cactus:

I must be a fan of pink!

Pink (and red) is the most common color you'll find. In few different shades. If I was to buy any, I think i would get a white...or some other color if available. And yes, your new one is Spring/Easter cactus.

My favorite color would be a pale pink rather than the vibrant one that I purchased. White is really nice also. I try hard to control myself and take it slow---and not purchase every color or variety when I find a plant. At this point, I don't really know if I will be successful in growing this cactus or whether it will even bloom in my house.

I'm not sure what all the fuss about the 5-1-1 mix is. I've been using it - or a slightly amended version - for years on ALL my containerized plants (except cacti and succulents), both indoors and out. I only water marginally more frequently than if I were using an inferior, prepackaged potting mix. I find it to be sufficiently fast draining yet adequately water retentive and durable enough that it will last several seasons without degrading to the point of collapse with loss of aeration.

Negative comments otherwise about the 5-1-1 just indicate a lack of firsthand personal experience with it. Even in the warmest, driest days of summer, none of my plants, including heavily blooming annuals or producing veggies, require daily watering....except perhaps the hanging baskets.

newhostalady, holiday cactus are very easy houseplants to grow! I doubt you will have any troubles with yours :-)

In the case above, the poster fears I'm against her and, in this case, she's actually about half right.

???

I simply don't really care, but do have criticisms.

Thanks for the clarification.

I see this thread has been cleaned up!

For Rina, a picture of what the Easter cactus flowers look like. (I was at the store and snapped the picture. I resisted buying it!)

I decided to remove the kalachoe(?) that was growing with my Christmas cactus. I just cut it off. I planted the top of it to see how it will grow and whether it will be worthwhile keeping it.

Underside of leaf

Yes, those are Easter cactus blooms. I have it too, just not white.

Kalanchoe is extremely easy to grow. You may end up having a lot of babies. I wouldn't worry about it...it almost grows without any care :)

New pictures of the mysterious kalanchoe plant that was growing with my Christmas cactus:

What are those?

Looks like Kalanchoe daigremontiana, aka Mother of Thousands. Each one of those little leaf nodules will eventually drop off and can start a new plant.

"I see this thread has been cleaned up!"

Thankfully, the rude and offensive poster was finally banned from this site and most - but not all - of his unpleasant comments deleted.

Thanks for the ID gardengal48. Nature is amazing. I am looking forward to seeing this kalanchoe develop.