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Bedroom design for a large family

4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

I'm looking at building a new house for my family and I in the future and I need help because I cannot shake the fact that I feel like I'm missing something. Cost isn't a realistic problem, however if something that's not critical can be done for cheaper then I'll do that.
It's going to be an ICF building with 2x6 walls, including one butted up to the concrete exterior, with a few layers of vapor guard between to prevent mildew and mold from condensation on the concrete, and because of the ICF and effective lack of ability to make additions when finished I'm gonna plan for the higher end of things just in case.
So after considering everything we'll be doing I'm looking at 20~30 kids living here, and so I'm thinking to encourage bonding each group of five will share a bedroom, and each would have a combination closet and changing room for privacy's sake. I'm thinking the way I'll do the layout for the bedrooms and bathrooms is the bathroom for each pair of rooms will sit between said rooms, with the bathroom being split between the tub with shower door, the sink and toilet, and then another tub with shower door. I'm thinking to save space all the doors involved will be sliding, except the one to the hallway, which would swing outwards.So to sum it up, basically my idea is that there's gonna be six bedrooms with five closet and changing rooms, each with a sliding door that would go into the wall instead of on one side or t'other, then having the bathroom, which would be split into thirds for usability, then another bedroom on the other side.
What am I missing here in my idea?

Comments (28)

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    Hire a local architect to guide you regarding your current misconceptions and all future misconceptions.

  • 4 years ago

    ​Aside from the fact that I think this is a troll post or you're a fundamentalist faith with the goal of an absurd amount of children and the fact that there is no sense of privacy that could be provided because it's not your intention to do so, you do have to think of few things:


    1. Local or county standards will not let you have 5 to 6 persons in a room for safety and sanitation standards. 


    2. If you had a mix of genders how do you deconflict for age and gender? 


    3. What if you have special needs or exceptional family members who require more space and privacy for their medical or emotional health?

  • 4 years ago

    1. Again, I'm not planning on 5 to 6 a room, I'm planning on four at most, the extra space is because I don't see it being possible to make additions to a concrete building and I'd rather have extra space and not need it. I'm thinking the main room would be close to twenty feet square.


    2. My family had a history of having mostly boys, and my line specifically is all boys, so it's not likely. If it does happen then the girls would be in their own rooms with each other.


    3. Simple, if one of our kids needs more space they'd get one of the guest rooms, assuming the other bedrooms were at that four person limit.


    As for who I am and what I believe though, how about you keep your opinions to yourself because I'm not gonna argue here because I'd quickly catch a ban

  • 4 years ago

    Wait wut 😮 I thought you meant a foster home for kids or something like that. If that’s the case I’d plan on way more bedrooms and certainly more bathrooms.

  • 4 years ago

    Where is Sophie when we need her most?

  • 4 years ago

    If you're going to have 20-30 children, I think each of your 4 wives will want their own private suite as well. Plan for more bedrooms and bathrooms.

  • 4 years ago

    You need a professional. any group home environment would benefit from real design expertise so that the building can contribute to the well being of its occupants. Safety, security, long term / short term family members - all are things that need to be addressed and you'l have to share way more information about this all boys family than you have shared here.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    IMO this is a spoof post really how on earth are you pplanning to have 20 kids you better explain a lot more or get off here. BTW just because there were no girls in your family does not mean they will not appear .Why do you assume you cannot add on to a concrete bldg. it is doen all the time but honestly either provide a ton more info or I am done for sure.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    "how on earth are you planning to have 20 kids"

    Do NOT go into detail.

  • 4 years ago

    Nothing is guaranteed. Neither all boys and certainly not 20 - 30 children.

  • 4 years ago

    For me, one reason I come to this website is to be exposed to projects or styles I don't get to have a hand in daily. I am always learning something, whether about materials, design, or just people in general. I would welcome the challenge on a project like this.

    Your solution will require a different perspective than just taking the concept of a single family house and enlarging it. Some examples are thinking about: not just providing barrack-like bedrooms; or the size of a Kitchen, it's equipment, and how it will flow with the necessary many helpers; the design of a Dining or Living and it's accessory functions needed to double as a classroom for homeschool (e.g. storage and sink for "art class"); the sizes of all congregration spaces and how they are naturally lit and conditioned; how you will provide areas for refuge or personal time when needed; how the design will allow construction to be phased in over time since it sounds like all 30 kids have yet to arrive.

    You may also want to review the use of ICF. I do not understand your reference to a 2x6 wall, but if you are not familiar with ICF, building above ground, especially a 2nd story, is a whole different animal than a basement foundation. It also reduces the opportunities for fenestration and may complicate structurally adequate long and high walls and the roofs that cover those large spaces you will need. An ICF design should not be just a stick-built wood-frame design converted.

    Good luck in your endeavor, both building and procreating!


  • 4 years ago

    You should call Jim Bob Duggar and ask him how he built his cult compound.

  • 4 years ago

    "What am I missing here in my idea?"


    Your poor wife's approval?


  • 4 years ago

    Sister Wives? addictive show. one wife couldnt do this. each wife needs her own space.

  • PRO
    4 years ago

    I would like to take on this project, but I am too busy trying to figure out what to do with my 20 daughters.

  • 4 years ago

    There's nothing here that says he'sgoing to "make" all the boys - and in fact - the post would indicate that it's more of a group home, that he is preferring to call a "family" - so I could certainly see foster kids for example.

  • 4 years ago

    Bump

  • 4 years ago

    2. My family had a history of having mostly boys, and my line specifically is all boys, so it's not likely. If it does happen then the girls would be in their own rooms with each other.


    @just_janni this comment from the OP sounds like “his line” is definitely “making” these boys…..;)

  • 4 years ago

    Missed the "my line" comment.


    Oh my.


    more used to talking about lines with horses....

  • 4 years ago

    Doesn’t it take 30-40 years to have 20-30 kids? I mean, my mom has 14 kids on her family and the older ones were moved out by the time the younger ones were born. Will you really have 20-30 kids living on the house at the same time. This doesn’t sound like an adoption or foster situation since you’re talking about “lines”.

  • 4 years ago

    ^^ You are thinking serially, and you should be thinking in parallel!

  • 4 years ago

    Maybe he's Canadian. So 20-30 kids converted to the U.S. is actually only 8-11.

  • 4 years ago

    For the people asking how, I'm going to be taking a page out of Mormon history and updating it for modern laws, since polygamy is technically illegal in Utah still, I'll be marrying one and the other four are gonna be girlfriends. I've already ran this by each of them, they all agree to doing it, hence why I'm looking into this. For 3onthetree, the property I'm going to be building on is in the mountains near where I live, so depending on where on the property we like best and gives the best view, I'd basically flatten part of the hill and set the back of the house up against the hill. I'm not gonna be doing the architecture and that, I'm trying to figure out what my women and I want in the floor plan and then we'll go to an architect, run it by them, and then find a contractor who can do the bulk of it, I can very easily finish the interior since I know how to sheetrock a room, although I'd be using hardwood instead because I'm not a fan of sheetrock. My reason for doing ICF is because, in my mind, is it means it'll last longer and it's not primarily an investment, it's primarily a home and a place to raise multiple generations of our family.

  • 4 years ago

    For Kim Weaver, I'm the oldest in my family of the kids, on my dad's side I have eight relatives, three brothers and five cousins, and three of the cousins are girls. On my mom's side I have twelve or thirteen relatives, three brothers, and 9 or 10 cousins, of which four are girls. So I'd say the odds are pretty good that I'd father mostly boys since that's about 65% of my relatives of my generation or younger being boys.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    "I'm trying to figure out what my women and I want in the floor plan"

    You may need 5 completely different styles, and an arbitrator. Good luck!

    If you'd be willing to share, I've always wondered, how do you pay for all that food, building, and stuff for so many people?

  • 4 years ago

    Clearly you’ve never taken a probability class. Mutually exclusive events. Doesn’t matter what other family members have had, nor what previous children were.

  • 4 years ago

    As for the question of food, I'm planning on growing a lot of the vegetables and what fruits we can given the region and growing season. As for meat, we'll be running a couple businesses and so I'm thinking when we place an order with a supplier for meats at the cafeterias we'd also order some for our house, plus I've got a family history of hunting deer and elk so I'd continue that tradition, although unlike my dad and uncles I'd use a lot more of the animals we hunt than just the back straps. As for stuff, we'll have more than enough money because of some family tragedies that I don't want to go into, although I'd also try my hand at making some of the furniture because wood working is a great passion of mine

  • 4 years ago

    So the Second Manifesto and Utah HB99 don't apply to you?


    "I'm trying to figure out what my women and I want" Equality and respect when referencing them would be a start. They're not your women, they're your family.