Why integrated at all just a nice undermount sink in a simple counter then you can have what ever size you want .

We did glass thats backpainted any color you want. its beautiful

I got one a few years ago from Kohler--I think it was vitreous china. Very pretty. They call 'em "vanity top" sinks. Naturally they sell vanities that they fit onto, but as long as your contractor measures better than mine did, it should go on anything the right size--you just have to be sure they're compatible.

eta: and yes, they have colors!

@Fori thank you - how wide is your counter? I looked through Kohler pretty carefully, and did not see anything wider than 49". If you have a photo handy I'd love to see it

@southeasthouse - thank you!! it makes a lot of sense. (I'll probably have to read your post a few times!) .

Yes, I'm after the completely seamless look . I have seen an "integrated sink" that appears to have a quartz like surface on top with an undermounted sink with a pretty obvious seam and that added to confusion.

Corian - I swear I did not see a deeper sink on the website. I'll look again. One of the problems are availability and supply chain issues - something about only a particular sink in stock according to this particular fabricator -

One thing is for sure - I won't be springing for a super custom set up, nor a seamless, carved, one piece marble sink - so that should simplify things in a way..

You could also consider a cultured marble countertop. There are newer matte finishes and updated sink shapes that dont look dated like some of the old styles..

Here's a Corian sink integrated into a DuPont engineered stone top. There is no open joint of any kind between the sink flange and stone bottom; nothing to ever clean or maintain. If there's a better way to mount a sink, I haven't seen it.

There is no "melting", "fusing" or "welding" as with pure acrylics such as Plexiglass. The bond between the sink flange and the bottom of the top is adhesive in nature. Good thing too, because I misplaced a bowl once and had to soak it off with acetone.

Believe you are correct on the Kohler ceramic. We have one at our island place. Made it through cat 5 Irma with stuff flying everywhere - not a scratch!

We're redoing our master bath at home and I looked for a 72" two bowl. Doesn't exist. I think it's something about firing large ceramics successfully. Too bad, because it's a gorgeous and very practical sink.

@Joseph Corlett, LLC @southeasthouse thank you -

Thank you for the education - much appreciated!

I had previously been told by the designer that a fabricator has a "mold" of a sink, and "bends" solid surface material (usually white it seems) into the mold. Viola, truly seamless, one piece, all same color. Sink is made OF the same solid surface, and sink he used was just a mold.

Is that misinformation? If I go with solid surface and choose grey, will the sink portion be also grey? Or will it be like the photo? There will be no heating and bending - just fusing?

@Joseph Corlett, LLC, in your photo - did a fabricator take a DuPont dark quartz, cut out a sink opening, and "glue" onto the sink flange? Fine by me, as long as it's seamless and no crud (though there is a visual seam.) And this is a good thing, that means I can choose any color of quartz.

Now here is the IMPORTANT question - if I go with Corian, I need to choose a sink from Corian line up? Hi-MACS - Hi Macs line up?

What if I go with quartz - they seem more curling iron resistant. Then any of the "integrated sinks" from those companies, that a fabricator is willing to obtain?

Fabricator is pushing me for one particular Corian sink that's currently available, but I want something a little deeper than 5". I don't directly communicate with him and it's been a little difficult to know what's what.

thank you!

"Is that misinformation?"

Yes.

"If I go with solid surface and choose grey, will the sink portion be also grey?"

Maybe. About 20 years or so ago, some people in California figured out how to thermoform 1/2" Corian sheets into bowls; I can't remember their company. That means that technically, you can get any Corian bowl to match any Corian top. Unfortunately, the heat required to thermoform makes the color of the bowl mismatch the top slightly, however, this can be somewhat overcome by a beveled edge profile at the sink.

"Or will it be like the photo?"

If you get a stock Corian sink.

"There will be no heating and bending - just fusing?"

There is no heating, bending, or fusing by fabricators. The joint between the sink flange and the bottom of the top is adhesive in nature, not "fused" or "welded" as with Plexiglass.

"Now here is the IMPORTANT question - if I go with Corian, I need to choose a sink from Corian line up? Hi-MACS - Hi Macs line up?"

Any solid surface bowl can be adhered to any solid surface sheet, no matter what the manufacturers say.

Engineered stone (quartz) is not more curling iron resistant than solid surface. A solid surface top that's damaged from heat has a chance at repair depending upon the extent of the damage; an estone top, not so much.

Some estone manufacturers cast estone undermount sinks for integrated mounting. I don't have any experience with that.

@Sue 430 I know this isn't what the OP would be pursuing, but I was intrigued by your sink and vanity made of glass. Could you please share a photo of yours (i had no other way to connect to your response).

Here is ours. it is still covered in plastic as the cabinets need to be moved slightly. excuse all of the jess, we’re still in mid construction

@Sue 430 Thank you, that is beautiful. Interesting how you went for a single sink (food for thought for me). Would you mind sharing where you got this from? Is it custom?

@Joseph Corlett, LLC - thank you again - You've been a great resource!

It's great to know solid surface fares better than quartz for potential heat damage. I no longer have to contemplate quartz.

I was using "adhere" and "fuze" interchangeably - and clearly I'm wrong. Can I think of the solid surface (or quartz) +sink process as some black magic to "stick the flange of the sink to the bottom of the top surface", and if you run a finger along it's perfectly smooth, and there will be no seam for crud to get in? And that if I use a different colored top, still the same but with a just a visual seam between the two?

@Sumod - A single sink all the way for me. Countertop is so much more useful, and I really wouldn't want anyone else while I'm in there..

@Sue 430 I second Sue. It is beautiful! Could you share the nitty gritty with us? Size, cost, difficulty in any part of the planning and execution?

Do you have any other photos or weblinks - I'm thinking about switching from shiny to matte subway (Bedrosian Cloe to Makoto) on the wall. I wonder if a little relaxed / rustic vibe of the Makoto tiles won't go with shiny glass countertop? I do like ceramic integrated top look; they remind me of a classy enamel cast iron. Is yours similar at all?

And I didn't understand the term "backpaint" - could you enlighten me?

Sorry Pong, I didn't notice the sizes.

We didn't install ours because of a GC screwup. It sat in the yard for a year getting filthy but cleaned up beautifully for delivery to H4H.

"Can I think of the solid surface (or quartz) +sink process as some black magic to "stick the flange of the sink to the bottom of the top surface", and if you run a finger along it's perfectly smooth, and there will be no seam for crud to get in? And that if I use a different colored top, still the same but with a just a visual seam between the two?"

Yes and yes.