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Attic wiring for remodel.. Is this code??.

4 years ago

So I went up to my attic after having a remodel done, and I couldn't even take a step to the landing as wiring was blocking it. As I looked around there was wiring strung all over. Is this up to code? I live in Mesa AZ




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  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Nope, its not. I would be very worried what they did inside my walls. Obviously was not done by a licensed electrician.

  • 4 years ago

    They didnt even unroll the romex before slinging it all over the place. You can see how its wavy. Who did this work?

  • 4 years ago

    Cat & Dave - So what specifically in the IRC is the violation you see?


    Everything is to be done in a workmanlike manner, but unfortunately this is what the definition of workmanlike has fallen to.

  • 4 years ago

    If you follow IRC, Section E3802.2 covers requirements for exposed cabling in attics. So to paraphrase the code:

    - E3802.2.1 If you have a permanent stair or ladder access to the attic, then all cabling has to be protected (e.g. wood furring guard strips) within 7ft of the attic access, both horizontally across the attic floor and vertically towards the roof. This is to prevent grabbing any cables as you enter. If attic access is just a scuttle hole with no permanent stair or ladder, then the same requirement reduces to 6ft around that hole.

    - E3802.2.2 When cabling is installed through or parallel to floor joists or rafters, it must follow typical guidelines as you would with say, non-attic wall studs, e.g. 1 1/4" from edge.

    - There are also additional requirements for cabling like stapling and following the structure, but I only provided specific attic excerpts.

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    Since IRC pulls excerpts verbatim from NEC, it lists NEC 334.23 and 320.23(A) as it's source. Most locales specify NEC as electrical code anyway, not IRC, but they duplicate.

    ----->>> Note it confuses people, but NEC 334.23 only states that for cable in accessible attics, refer to NEC 320.23. This section covers type AC cable, but the same requirements are to be applied to NM ("Romex") cable.




  • 4 years ago

    ^^ So, if you read the code excerpts, in your pictures standing at the access hole your NM ("Romex") doesn't look to comply.

  • 4 years ago

    Beyond not meeting code, its sloppy. is this an actual licensed electrician? if so, they dont care about their work at all or are using the most green apprentice on the earth.

  • 4 years ago

    3onthetree-

    So obviously the landing isn’t to code does that mean the loose wires are also not to code because of the location and not being attached?

  • 4 years ago

    I also had questions about acceptable stripped wire going into breakers. Does this seem typical?

  • 4 years ago

    Nothing to do with the landing. It's the wires.

    For the breakers, that looks typical. I don't believe there is an NEC spec for exact dimension of exposed copper from the termination point. Of course, good workmanship would mean there is only 1/16"-1/8" exposed. The neutrals (white) going into the bus is typical to extend through so you know the screw clamped the entire wire and not just the end.