Ask your architect! They might have other sources, or could spec a more affordable alternative.

#3 100 watt bulbs produce 4800 lumens for crying out loud there are 100s of pendants that have LEDs the produce more than enough lumens.

Well I have asked and asked the architect and all he come up with are more very expensive options, unfortunately.

Go to agood lighting store and BTW you will need more than 3 of wahtever you decide . I use Tech cabel lighting to put light where I need it and also light at human scale not up in the ceiling in a vaulted space. You need layers of light so some overall , some task some under cabinets Get a good lighting designer obviouslt the architect is in over their head.

Hi Patricia - Architect says we need at least 150 watts per light. He’s not a lighting consultant but is also an interior designer. He says 5200 lumens is the minimum we need and more wb better since this is the only light source for the room except lamps and the light on a ceiling fan(and that’s in the family room area).

It’s a very tall ceiling. We need to use LED lights bc as I understand it incandescent is not available here (Calif) anymore. Finding a dimmable led pendant under $500 with 150 watts or 1200 plus lumens, suitable for a sloped ceiling, that both I and my husband like, has proved quite challenging!

Any websites where it’s possible to filter on lumens? That is what I’ve searched for and not found.

build.com has filter for sloped ceiling compatible and lumen output

I can't understand how 3 fixtures could possibly be enough task lighting in a kitchen, unless this is a VERY small kitchen. Task lighting isn't just about total brightness, but good placement too. Patricia Colwell's cable lighting suggestion seems like a really good idea for this space.

Can you post a sketch of your kitchen layout? There are some really knowledgeable people here who could give you great advice on lighting placement and fixture type, but they will need to know what the room looks like.

not sure what style you’re looking for, but there are these

Here I hope is a picture of the layout. Having a hard time getting my phone to cooperate with uploading. There is also to be under cabinet lighting for task lighting. The big fixtures are supposed to light the room as a whole and the island area. Room is roughly 17.5 wide and 33 long.

IMO ther eis no need for dimmable lights in kitchens do under csbinet on one switch the other lighting on either one or 2 switches that way when you just want a bit of light turn on the under cabinet lights. Incandecsent bulbs have not been available in canada for a long time but you will love LEDs once you get used to them . LEDs to give you 150 wats are easily available. 25 watt LED = 150 watts incandescent . I would be really worried about an architect that has not kept up with a simple electrical issue.

I’m sorry Patricia- I must not be stating things clearly! Yes the architect is well aware of LEDs and how they relate to incandescent wattages in terms of lumens. We mostly already have LED replacement bulbs in our existing lamps. I’m the one a bit confused by how to find a pendant with enough light output given how lighting fixtures are marketed and described online which tends to be in watts vs lumens.

Why are you not installing recessed lights? Modern recessed lights are barely noticeable. They are no longer the ”cans” of yesteryear, which gave a swiss cheese effect on the ceiling.

We have three layers of lighting…recessed, two semi-flush pendants, plus under cabinet. The dining area has its own set of pendants.

• 12.5 in. Industrial Farmhouse Pendant Light Fixture with Metal Shade (also in brass or brushed nickel) - $80*
• PLT Solutions PLT-11676 2150 Lumens - 20 Watt - 3000 Kelvin - LED A21 Light Bulb
• Lutron LED+ Dimmer

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*Lots more on Home Depot website. IKEA too.

Thanks the light above is a good one! I didn’t find any very bright lights on the ilea website but maybe they have more in the stores.

Re cans - we can’t do recessed cans bc there’s not any place to recess them into. The ceiling is the roof. Ie not using any trusses to build the ceiling and roof.

As Patricia said, physically leave the house, and go to a couple of lighting stores. Any decent store will have knowledgable staff, who will not only know the inventory, but also be able help with your specific needs. Go with a floorplan, to scale.

Guess I need to find better lighting stores! Went to Ferguson (aka Build.com) and they didn’t have any good options to offer but maybe I can try a different sales rep. Also been to several other local lighting places plus Lowe’s, Home Depot, Friedman’s. Nothing has the 150 watt that they’re able to show me. I’ll
Keep looking!

"Nothing has the 150 watt that they’re able to show me."

150 watt refers to the wattage of an incandescent bulb. This example 150 watt bulb emits 1550 lumens. But you're not going to be using an incandescent bulb; few are even sold anymore. You'll use an LED bulb. A 14 watt LED bulb is about as bright as a 150 watt incandescent bulb. Just buy a pendant that accepts a bulb such as the pendant linked above and buy a bulb with the lumens you need, ignoring the LED bulb's wattage.

Wdcruise is right…you’re using old terminology. You need to get educated about LED lighting, learning about lumens. Forget about incandescent terms. Wattage is out, lumens are in. Been that way for close to 10 years already. Sales people today no longer think in wattage.

Thanks all - Ive been using the 150 watts as a short cut of speech. What I need is a light with at least 2600 lumens! I guess i need reassurance that you can put a 14 watt led bulb in a fixture that doesnt say it is rated for 150 watts. Does that make sense?

"I guess i need reassurance that you can put a 14 watt led bulb in a fixture that doesnt say it is rated for 150 watts."

Those ratings are for incandescent bulbs which generate a lot of heat. If you're using LED bulbs, you can ignore the rating because LED bulbs run cool. The pendant I linked above is rated for 60 incandescent watts. Ignore that. you can use any LED bulb in it.

That’s awesome information thanks!