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Max thickness for custom panel install for Thermador 30" column Fridge

3 years ago

Hello,

I've purchased Thermador's Freedom collection panel ready 30" column Freezer and Fridge (models: T30IF905SP and T30IR905SP). I am trying to keep the consistency in my kitchen design to slim shaker cabinets throughout instead of having to place a flat panel on both appliances. (The slim shaker panels are 7/8" in thickness.) I've been looking into the spec sheets and reaching out to the appliance store I've purchased from, but am getting unclear answer whether or not I can have a 7/8" thick panel applied to the freezer and fridge (they will be side by side). The installation and spec sheet "recommend 3/4", but does not say it's limited too. Has anyone installed a 7/8" thick panel? Did it cause any impedance issues with opening closing or strange gaps?

Comments (14)

  • 3 years ago

    Where does the spec sheet recommend a 3/4" thick panel? Page 71 of the (amazing!) 84-page installation instructions just specifies a maximum panel weight and page 8 shows how the appliances must be arranged (and not next to a wall).

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I believe you must order a Framing Kit to apply your custom panels to the fridge.

    https://static.appliancesconnection.com/attachments/D4fabe6e73f315.pdf

  • 3 years ago

    @BeverlyFLADeziner: "I believe you must order a Framing Kit to apply your custom panels to the fridge."

    It depends on the depth of the cutout and the type of installation as described on pages 233-234 which also clarifies that panels can be thicker than 3/4". The complexity of design/planning and installation -- particularly the latter -- is just astounding.

  • 3 years ago

    “The complexity of design/planning and installation -- particularly the latter -- is just astounding.”

    This is why my KD, independent appliance store, and contractor worked closely togather, for the custom panel on my SZ.

    Where is your KD in this?

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago


    " where is your KD in this?"

    Exactly.

    Since you appear NOT to have a kitchen designer? Go back to the appliance store, get the name of the rep, and meet. WITH the cad plan of the kitchen and the cabinet maker/provider. I certainly wouldn't guess.

    You are talking about 1/8" DIFFERENCE between the recommended 3/4 and the 7/8 of flanking cabinetry as both columns would have 7/8 panels.

    Where IS your cad plan, what abuts to the columns?


  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Does anyone else notice that when you ask a question you are often told that you should be asking your KD, but when the KD messes up you are often told that you are the person who should have known that?

    You should be fine with 7/8” thick doors but with slim shaker you will need some pretty thick panels. So make sure your panels are at least 1/2”. IFRC the Thermador is a great choice for slim shaker as their mounting system has a lot of mounting points on the handle side. Some columns would need reinforcement to work.

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    "Does anyone else notice that when you ask a question you are often told that you should be asking your KD, but when the KD messes up you are often told that you are the person who should have known that?"

    Yes to the first, NO to the second. Because "designer" for many people has different connotations as It applies to kitchens. Could be a sales person at a big box, could be a cabinet "replacement" type salesman, from a local kitchen and bath store, replacing box for box with little consideration to function.

    A kitchen with 60 inches of cooling, cabinet clad? Rather implies a skilled and independent K.D .

  • 3 years ago

    “…but when the KD messes up you are often told that you are the person who should have known that?”

    Yeah, that does happen on occasion…and, it’s often warranted.

    Like the thread from a couple of days ago, about the OP’s mitred island countertop made of a material called, Symphony. She was complaining that the corners showed white, and not the pattern of the counter’s top. She assumed the product she purchased was quartz. Some of the pros who commented, were not familiar with the product. Neither was I. However, a simple search brought me to the Symphony website, which states plainly, that it’s a printed product…as the pros, eventually pointed out. Since the OP wasn’t told otherwise, she assumed it was quartz, and was blaming her KD for the situation…where as the OP was clearly at fault for not doing her research due diligence.

    In this particular thread, the KD should’ve been very much involved with process of paneling the fridge door. She should’ve had the necessary specs, making this a non issue.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    she assumed it was quartz, and was blaming her KD for the situation…where as the OP was clearly at fault for not doing her research due diligence.

    That person was employing a KD for her kitchen - how is it then not the KD's fault for not researching the product going into the kitchen and informing her client of potential issues? Is a KD different from other professionals you hire for their specific expertise? When you incur a fine from the IRS due to an error in your tax return that you paid an accountant to do, you are saying it's not the accountant's fault but your fault for not researching the Internal Revenue Code?

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Um, well, there’s a big difference between the average person researching and deciphering the complexities of the IRS Code, and the simple internet search of a kitchen product…which clearly states the contents and manufacturing process.

  • 3 years ago

    @M Miller: "That person was employing a KD for her kitchen - how is it then not the KD's fault for not researching the product going into the kitchen and informing her client of potential issues?"

    Because the KD could not read her client's mind to know her "potential issues". This is not analogous in any way to a tax error.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Because the KD could not read her client's mind to know her "potential issues".

    @wdccruise - It's not reading the client's mind to know her "potential issues". The separate thread that @darbuka is referencing was regarding a counter material that does not have the color all the way through. That homeowner worked with a KD on her kitchen, and that counter material was part of the KD's design. @darbuka was saying it is the homeowner's fault, that she should have researched the counter material and thereby understood that the color did not go all the way through, and furthermore should have predicted that the fabricator's edging would be problematic. These are not "her potential issues" as you put it. These issues are not potential, they happened.

    That counter should have been vetted by the KD who included it as part of the design job she is being paid for. I stand by my analogy to an accountant doing your tax returns, not researching the latest Internal Revenue Code changes, and thereby causing an IRS fee to the client. The client paid the accountant for their expertise and should not be expected to know Internal Revenue Code, just like a homeowner paying a KD should not be expected to know the properties of a counter that the KD included in her design.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    There are both knowledgeable and ill-informed design professionals. The only one vested in providing you with the correct information is the MANUFACTURER!! You are either a phone call or email away from getting the information you require.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Thermador are really difficult to get right. Whomever is making the panels needs to coordinate with the appliance installer who installs them We gave up that job, because the manufacturer’s specs were sometimes wrong, and we would be blamed for that. With the trained appliance installer involved, we furnish the panel to spec and wash our hands. We then get paid to alter things, as a change order, if things need altering.