Heller Sienna dimmable fan and light. Remove light from dimmer?

2 years ago

I have a heller sienna ceiling fan in my roof which has a remote xonnected which can dim the lightt and change the fan speed. I have recently purchases a smart bulb which I want to go in there. To do this, I want to remove it completely from the dimmer so when the light switch is on, the light gets power, but the fan still uses the remote control. After taking it down and looking at the wirers, there is a Live and neutral going into the remote dimmer, and it putputs a neutral, fan, and light wire. If I dosconnected the light wire and connected the live for the light (not the one connecting to the dimmer) directly to the live in the roof leaving the neutral as is, would the light bulb work still keeping in mind it’s neutral is going theough the dimmer but positive is directly connecting to the Australian mains in the roof. Thanks for your help!

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klem1
2 years ago
" there is a Live and neutral going into the remote dimmer, and it putputs a neutral, fan, and light wire. "

At face value and assuming what you believe is true, the dimmer interrupts only the neutral and "live" runs from black wire in junction box directly to light. You would disconnect neutral between dimmer and bulb, cap it off and run a short neutral from white building wire in junction box to wire on light that was disconnected from wire coming from dimmer. BUT it's possible things aren't as they look. You may have a black(live) and white (neutral) going into dimmer then live coming out of dimmer as white. Fixtures don't always follow the same colors as NEC does for building wires. To play it safe and not damage light I suggest using a test light or table lamp temporary in place of ceiling light.
Christopher Rino
Original Author
2 years ago
Ok. I’m pretty confident with the outputs as they are already labeled in those three ways i mentioned. Do uou think it would be better if i just rewired it so that the neutral and live from the bulb skip the dimmer entirely and just head straight to the roof (where the dimmer os connected to as well)?
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wdccruise
2 years ago
This might work:
1. Verify that the existing fan bulb is a 230-volt bulb, not a low-voltage bulb.
2. Refer to the diagram on page 6 of Ceiling Fan with Light Instruction Manual.
3. Disconnect the wires from wire nut (c).
4. Reattach the wire nut to the now-disconnected light wire from the remote to protect it.
5. Add a short length of wire between wire nut (e) and a new wire nut for the now-disconnected wire to the light bulb.
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Christopher Rino
Original Author
2 years ago
Ok thanks, I ended up getting it by just connecting the light to the feed of the dimmer and leaving the fan alone. Thanks for your help.
John 9a
2 years ago
As an add-on to this topic, some of the ceiling fans with dimmable or remote-operated lights will not allow you to use an LED light bulb. Something about the dimmer apparently doesn't recognize the low voltage on the LED bulb. The solution for that problem is also to remove, or wire around, the dimmer module for the light. When I first had this problem I was totally perplexed. The light would come on for a fraction of a second before going out and it acted like a worn out light switch.
wdccruise
2 years ago
"As an add-on to this topic, some of the ceiling fans with dimmable or remote-operated lights will not allow you to use an LED light bulb."

Right. Just like many older wall dimmers, a fan dimmer may not support LED bulbs. Often one must change out a dimmer to an LED-compatible dimmer (e.g., Lutron LED+ dimmer) when switching out incandescent bulbs for LED.