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Heated driveway/walkway for black ice

last year

Hi - we are putting in a new driveway for our new construction home in Santa Fe. It doesn’t snow a ton there but we will have a concrete driveway and walkway and the driveway has a slope from the street down to the house. We also have a casita where the only way to get to it from the garage is to walk outside up the sidewalk.

We can certainly plow/salt/grit the driveway/walk but I wondered if we should be considering a solution for days where there is black ice. I’d hate to slide down the driveway into the house or not be able to climb out.

It’s a fairly long driveway and we’d probably only need a solution 10 days a year. What options would you consider? Anyone have good experience with tire track solutions? Electric vs hydro? What companies should I research vs stay away from?

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  • last year

    Usually heated driveways and walks are heated all winter, as it takes awhile for concrete to get to temperature, and usually there is no insulation under the concrete, so the earth/stone below also would receive some of the heat. Quite an expense for 10 times a year. I've seen hydronic systems.

  • last year

    When I encounter slick ice on my drive, I step off to one side and walk on the lawn which hasn't been cleared. Very safe.

  • last year

    Quite an expense for 10 times a year.

    I was going to say the same thing -- it's not just the installation; the energy necessary to operate the system will be expensive.

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    usually there is no insulation under the concrete

    The standard in our climate is 3" minimum of closed cell foam board. We figured not worth it, though we do heat the front porch, basement walkup stairs and the basement floor.

    Ready to pour the concrete. Note red heating tubes for basement walkup.


    (And yes, now I see insulation was forgotten, says the blind man!)

  • last year

    It seems very wasteful energy wise. For the 10 or so days you might encounter slippery conditions, buy yourselves a few pairs of traction devices that go over your shoes/boots. Yak Tracks is one brand, but there are many more available online through Amazon, etc.

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    I mean, if you want a 30K-100K expense for this, sure, I'm sure that someone will take the money from you. But, if it's only 10 days a year, the stand salt it, and stay at home, works much better.

  • last year

    I live in Minnesota where this is actually a problem and no one does this unless they have buckets of money. I don't know any of those people but I'm sure there are some.

    Honestly I'd go through one winter with nothing and see if it's actually a problem. If it is, buy some of the heated mats that you can put out for the walk. Unless your driveway is super steep I don't think it will be an issue.

    I wouldn't spend money on a heated system in your climate.

  • last year

    We live on the PNW coast and have a really steep concrete driveway with a tight turn because our site is quite challenging. Some winters we have a little ice, but most of the time it’s very mild. At the beginning of the season we always make sure we have a big bucket of ice melt on hand because there’s no getting from the house to the street (where we have our trash and mail pickup) without either going up the driveway or scaling our steep hill in the front yard. (Or going down our hill in the backyard and walking to the valley, then walking up the valley quite a ways until it meets up with a gravel road that we can double back on.) So yeah... we also got Yak Traks for our shoes because there is literally no flat land on our property. Winter of 2023-2024 we had an ice event that had everyone in our neighborhood stuck for 5 days. We could at least get up our driveway because of the ice melt, but nobody could get down the hills in the neighborhood. A few neighbors tried, they all wrecked their cars. We live rural on the north side of a large hill, on the edge of a rainforest. So everyone stayed put and waited it out and laughed about it. Even in the best of weather, most visitors are too scared to drive their vehicles down our driveway, and some locals won’t even drive all of the way into the neighborhood because of one particular hill and the way it turns, which makes it a blind “wing over” kind of turn, plus our narrow roads which are barely wide enough for two cars to pass. LOL! Anyways, during those 5 days last winter there was no mail delivery or trash pickup because nobody could get in, but with our driveway de-iced we could at least get our dog out for a little walk. (Also no fenced yard, so we have to take him on a leash for every potty walk.)

  • last year

    Thanks all. I grew up in snow country but have never had a sloped driveway and the HOA doesn’t typically allow street parking or things put on top of driveways like mats. I guess if conditions are icy when I return home I’ll risk the violation rather than have my car slide down the hill into the house :-) Agreed with not going out if it’s icy. I was just hoping there was a system that worked on demand but sounds like that’s not an option. I appreciate the discussion and insights. Thank you!

  • last year

    And where does the melt GO?

  • last year

    They have water management built into the driveway but hopefully it works as planned and doesn’t go into our house!

  • last year

    I know a guy with buckets of money that did this and used it one year. Its insanely expensive to run.