Software
Houzz Logo Print
webuser_30795392

should I center my island with/ without barstools

23 days ago

Hello! I currently have 53 inches clearance on both sides of my island but I fear the stool side will be too tight , and am pondering if I should move the island to the left, towards the stove a smidge … but will it look grossly off centered?

When you walk into the house, the island / kitchen is the first thing you see. I want it to look nice, but also be functional / not cramped.

Thanks.

Comments (19)

  • 23 days ago

    How many will be seeing your kitchen from above? Is there any reason you will ever have people at the stools and at the table at the same time? That spacing might be double checked if the answer is yes. Chairs back to back need more footage when being used.

  • PRO
    23 days ago
    last modified: 22 days ago

    The easiest answer if you want this centered?

    You narrow the island to 48 or 54 inches!

    Your plan isnt great, you dont have all the dimensions on this …. you needed a prep sink, with the fridge closer to the dining end.

    Your plan if you want help- needs every wall and window dimension exactly.…..

    and what the surrounding entries and passages are.

    If this is a new build? Show the entire plan…..

    This as is?

    Extremely inconvenient….

  • 23 days ago

    The design I see is no stools. The comfortable height feet on the floor chairs are right next to the kitchen in the dining space. No adults will prefer the cramped feeling of sitting in the middle of working areas of a kitchen. If you had the width to turn the island sideways, stools would be usable but still unnecessary.

  • PRO
    23 days ago

    I think 60" is the min from counter to wall if you have stools and in your case that needs to be even larger since it also has things opening into that walkway. I agree a narrower island could be better and 5' is quite a reach to be able to clean from one side . We do need every measurement and you do know that the counter has a bit of an overhang past the 2' of the cabinet too. IMO no stools at the end for sure with the DR right there . While you are here maybe the whole plan for the kitchen posted here could maybe help you and us .

  • 22 days ago

    That fridge and dishwasher placement looks like a disaster in the making. Post the whole plan with demensions so people can help make the plan better. What you currently have is not good.

  • 22 days ago

    Eliminate the cabinetry on the wall behind stools, so you will have an L shape with island. The large fridge becomes counter depth and goes onto the end of the sink wall, the column can go on the end of the range wall cabinet run (depending on what it's for)

    I

    This is a large kitchen, you are very unlikely to use that space between fridges for working, so lose it and the layout will make more sense overall.

  • 22 days ago

    @jan thank you for the suggestion to make the island narrower- that makes the most sense to me.

    Apologies, I didnt have a better photo of the plans. The right most fridge will actually be a lower drink fridge and the in between space on the back will be a coffee bar behind the stools so will access it primarily in the mornings.

    Some functionality background. I cook and my husband does the dishes so I think fridge and dishwasher placement are fine. I believe narrowing the island solves a lot of problems

  • 22 days ago

    If you put the fridge on the range side and add a prep sink in your island, that will make your layout way more fictional. Right now your island is a barrier.

    Understand that narrowing your island will probably only leave enough room for one stool at the end. Although I agree that that's the best option.

  • 22 days ago

    @ang_p yes good call on the one stool on the end. Could you explain the rationale behind moving the fridge to the range side ? Not opposed but curious on your thought.

  • 22 days ago

    Yes, what ppf said.

    Fridge where it is means you have to walk around the island to get to it, possibly passing (and tripping over) someone doing dishes at the sink. If you move the fridge and add a prep sink, now you have a completely separate cooking space with everything right where you need it. A dream to cook in. Even better, the fridge is no longer buried in the kitchen, so grazers have easy access without coming into the kitchen.

  • PRO
    22 days ago

    IMO a 60" island is too big



  • 22 days ago

    @ppf thank you, that is helpful. We have a window where you placed the fridge but now thinking we might switch things around and put the range and fridge on the right wall, and have the stools on the island the left side. I’ve never liked sinks in islands so that’s a no go for us. We have a guest bathroom a few steps away that has a sink if someone really needs to use that.

  • PRO
    22 days ago
    last modified: 22 days ago

    The prep sink in the island i s for you, need not be large and has NOT one thing to with a lav sink in any bath, any locale.

    Showing the entire plan, in 2d ….whole house ?

    Helpful

  • 21 days ago

    Yes, the prep sink is for cooking and prepping, not an extra hand washing sink for guests.

    What exactly don't you like about sinks in islands? If you actually cook, you will love having it.

  • 21 days ago

    My design book recommends the following for a bar:

    • 18" of countertop overhang for a bar stool*
    • 30" for a bar stool and to be able to push it back from the bar
    • 24" to allow someone to walk behind a bar stool when it is pushed back from the bar

    -----

    *Your island cabinet would be 3'6" deep

  • PRO
    21 days ago
    last modified: 21 days ago

    Comfort:

    60 inches from counter edge to wall, for stools or a dining table

    Counter overhang at 18”?!!

    I’m no. Unless….. t is your only dining spot.

    Islands are meant to be the snack, grab a bite!!

    They arent the Ritz. !!

    12 - 15 inches is plenty, more is overkill

  • 21 days ago

    JAN MOYER: "Counter overhang at 18”?!! Islands are meant to be the snack, grab a bite!! They arent the Ritz. !!

    Such excitement!!

  • 14 days ago

    What is happening with the base cabinet tot he left of the fridge in that corner? Is it just dead space? I almost wonder if a peninsula would be better in this size kitchen.