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Here is an easy one. Recommend a light fixture

9 months ago

We bought a fixer upper and have been fixing it up for 12 years We are getting to details that have been left behind for more pressing matters. This room was part of the bed and breakfast inn for 11 of those years and now is our personal living room. It has finally become time to get rid of the most hideous overhead light ever.


The room is very dark, so we do want an overhead light. But not this one. Any suggestions?


We generally use the room for cocktails and parties. The house is an 1890’s Dutch Colonial in a seaside town in New England.





Comments (34)

  • PRO
    9 months ago
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    I totally agree that is one ugly light . Do you still need a fan? Are you will to do some pot lights for better overall lighting ? Your style is quite traditional so that is why I ask about the pot lights . Have you looked at maybe a nice chandelier type ;ight the ceilings do not look high so it would need to be more ceiling light as opposed to an actual chandelier I think. Wahtever light you end up with I would suggest you use LED bulbs in 3500K to keep the tradtional feel but much better actual light

  • 9 months ago

    We dont need the fan. we've used it maybe 10 times in 12 years.

  • 9 months ago

    Really not that easy, lol . To start, what kind of fixture? Chandelier?, flush mount?, semi-flush mount?, etc.? Style? I assume either traditional or transitional? Size? Finish? Lots of things to consider. I would start by searching online , e.g., Ferguson’s Home, Lumens, etc. You might find something quickly, that's where I start.

  • 9 months ago
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    K, we spent quite a bit of time on line last night. He wants a linear fixture with multiple lamps. I want a semi flush mount chandelier. We both want something that actually lights the room. We will have it on a dimmer switch. The house is victorian era but colonial in look. We both like traditional but not period exact.

  • 9 months ago

    auntthelma … I see the advantage of a linear fixture, however, I associate them more with lighting kitchen islands ( I like them there) or lighting rectangular dining room tables ( our last house ). Good luck, hope you find a compromise.

  • PRO
    9 months ago

    These are not easy to find, but a traditional chandelier that is shallow with shades in black or brass would work in the space.


    BTW I have lowered two of your framed prints because the closer you hang them to the ceiling, the lower your ceiling appears to be.




  • 9 months ago

    My thoughts,for a home your age I wouldn’t add a chandelier. I would look into adding as many sconces as possible, table lamps and gallery lights over paintings. I would tastefully play up the New England seaside cottage look.

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    Maybe look for one that has a bit of both of your styles. I think the most important thing is finding a light that provides good lighting and adds to the room in general. Also consider improving/adding lower lighting and look to complement the ceiling fixture.


  • 9 months ago

    Nothing that is too low since your ceiling looks to be 8’-0”, right?

  • 9 months ago

    Beverly and Maureen, love them both!

  • 9 months ago

    Yes. Ceiling is 8 feet.

  • 9 months ago

    Rejuvenation has some nice semi- flush mounts, one that I like “channels 1940’s Cape Cod” with a more modern feel, comes in 24”,30” & 40”:widths. Not cheap but looks nice.

  • 9 months ago

    K, they have seventy bazillion choices. which one are you looking at?

  • 9 months ago

    You need something flushmount like because of the lower ceilings. And something that blends in and isn't too attention grabbing given it is centered in the room but oddly off center from your seating area. Because of this, a fixture with arms looks out of place in here.


    Go for an alabaster or other bowl like fixture. Something like this.





    Artisan Lamp is having a big sale now. I have purchase many fixtures from them. All quality.


    If this is too traditional, find a more contemporary version.




  • PRO
    9 months ago

    Nope. The bowl lights do not direct any light down into the space. Just having the ceiling illuminated will make the space look 'flat' and uninteresting.

  • 9 months ago

    And bugs go there to die ☠️

  • 9 months ago

    Well i’ll say it again that room can’t carry a ceiling light. The electrical feed in ceiling is centered and the furniture is not. You could move it but any light you put in is going to look awkward due ceiling height and room placement Wall light sconces and lamps are a better way to go. Take advantage of age and charm of the home and do it right.

  • 9 months ago
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    that room can’t carry a ceiling light.


    It is a question of how much they want to invest in the process and what their ceilings and walls are made of. Adding sconces and other fixture locations to old homes, if the walls are plaster, can be a major undertaking. In my home, it involved routing channels through the plaster, replastering, and repainting the entire room. It was at least $10k.


    I think a ceiling light that is not very noticeable, isn't a "hey look at me fixture", but really blends in is the best bet for dealing with the lack of centeredness. If they lived with the uncenteredness of the ceiling fan, a very simple uncentered light might be enough of a vast improvement.




    The bowl lights do not direct any light down into the space. Just having the ceiling illuminated will make the space look 'flat'

    Are you thinking only of metal bowl lights? I had an alabaster bowl light in the center of my living room and found this to not be the case. It was my primary source of ambient light, and it was a large room. I of course added in floor reading lamps, and lights on consoles as for multiple tiers of illumination, but the main bowl illuminated in multiple directions, not simply up.

  • 9 months ago

    @Kendrah cometely understand what you’re saying. I lived in 1770s house and had to redo most of it on a budget. We had low ceilings in our living room (and plaster walls) and adding sconces made tbe room look magical. it also wasn’t as expensive as we feared. i will say some repairs knocked us on our behind, but you never know without looking into it because it depends on the construction of the house.

    we lived there thirty years and it was the best house i ever lived in. i miss it terribly.

  • 9 months ago
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    Kendrah …. Yes, our MCM home has plaster throughout, even hanging art calls for hardware specifically designed for that…. Learned that after bending numerous nails & other fasteners.

    We were having a recessed TV removed from a wall & our contractor said I have to get a different saw, “ your walls are cement!”.

  • 9 months ago

    I noticed walking past the lobby of a synagogue today that they had bowl lights and they only illuminated the ceiling, as @BeverlyFLADeziner had said. I'm so curious now. I have a number of bowl lights in my current home the project light all around. I wonder why some just throw light up and others generally illuminate.


    @Anna Devane - Your house sounds amazing. Ours was only 1852, a baby. Aside from all of the necessary expenses to keep an old home functioning, lighting is the top of my list to invest in. When we purchased our home it had Ikea ceiling fixtures throughout. Super horrible ugly ones. It was fun over the years to collect antique lighting and replace it all. Much of what we put in was not period appropriate and was from France. But it certainly was beautiful.

  • 9 months ago

    I would remove the fan fixture and add some canned lights in the ceiling. Then use sconces and table/floor lamps for ambience lighting and add some beauty in the room.

  • 9 months ago
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    @K Laurence our carpenter had powder actuated tools( I think that’s what they’re called) that used gun powder because we had some walls that were rock cement. They don’t build them like they used to. I now live in a 1960s house in California and I can push nails in a wall with just my fingers. No hammer needed!

  • 9 months ago

    Anna …. My house is a 60’s MCM in So Cal , ours has plaster walls, or “cement” as our contractor called them. They’re really solid, the only downside is that our WiFi sometimes has difficulty reaching the back guest room,but since it’s a rarely used guest room no problem.

  • 9 months ago

    My daughter has those “cement hard” walls in her 196 year old home. Contractor was able to manage to put sconce on with dimmer switches. For your room I might suggest larger sconces to replace the fireplace sconces. Replace ceiling fixture with a flood light, not a downward light and LED LIGHTING level to one that creates a warn atmosphere. Add a stand-alone, or table + lamp at the end of the loveseat. Enjoy seeing your home in a ‘light’.

  • PRO
    9 months ago

    No recessed lighting. Very harsh. I think a simple but multi arm fixture would be ideal and suit your lovely home. You can use LED style or incandescent. If you use LED make sure they are dimmable. Get appropriate level of light needed.

    auntthelma thanked Flo Mangan
  • last month

    The new fixture looks good, especially with the linen shade.

    auntthelma thanked apple_pie_order
  • last month

    Looks great. Who could object to a simple classic drum shade. They also provide good light and no glare from exposed bulbs.

    Someone had mentioned the fixture not centered with the seating, but that is something that bothers some people and not others. My chandelier in the family room is centered in the room, but not the seating ... not a single person has pointed it out or suggested I move it. It would also be hard to move as it is mounted on a beam, which would be harder to patch than a drywall ceiling.

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    chispa, Since we were replacing the fixture, we talked about centering it. The question was, center it on the ceiling? Then it was off center on the fireplace. So, center it on the fireplace? Then it was weirdly off center over the coffee table. Center over the coffee table/ seating area? Now it looks way off center to the fireplace again.

    Anyway, we left it where it was. There was no perfect spot for it. The house is from 1890 and has had several additions. Nothing is plumb or straight or centered. 😂🤷‍♀️

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    Love that - soft and simple, with nice clean lines - a winner for sure!

    auntthelma thanked la_la Girl
  • last month

    I love that


    I'm curious how much light does it give off? How many bulbs and how bright do you have?

    I'd like to change my can lights to some simple drum lights in my long hallway, although a single drum. But I also like the hallway bright for looking in the linen closet.

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    I had this drum light in 3 bedrooms in my previous house and it gave out a fair amount of light with 3 x 100W Bulbs. I also had the 4-light version (4 x 100W) in one of the bedroom, but don't see it on their website now.



  • last month

    Thanks!